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  • How is a Simple, chemical-based Handcannon be cosidered more powerful than a handheld Plasma Cannon. And how is a group of three, mentally defective and unstable Clones be considered more threatening than a Robotic Quadraped that is supposed to do whatever it's told.

    In terms of Raw Power, a chemical-based rocket laucher is somehow more powerful than a fusion-based grenade laucher that is supposed to tear your molecules apart.

    Explain this to me?

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    • Well considering the Grineer are pouring every fiber of their beings into an expansionistic war and the Corpus are merely out to make a quick buck, you can probably see why. Effort put into it. Its comparing a family owned business who's lives are lived and lost on the drop of a dollar vs the Uber-Mcdonalds with guns of the Warframe averse That launcher you mentioned? It's a plasma grenade, its like sticking your hand in front of a blow-torch, not disintegrating anyone, just burning them away in one quick flash. Compare that with a rocket filled with Thermite Mark 2 and things get just a tad bit more. . .. messy That "Plasma Cannon"? it's a pistol loaded with depleted Uranium slugs, still advanced in some ways, but, still mundane in others. As for the Grustrag Versus the Zanuka? Think about it, a robot is programmed with certain commands and sets out to meet those goals, it is governed by logic. A band of blood-soaked psychopaths, on the other hand, is as random as you can get. The drone, at some point, will at least need maintenance and repair. Meanwhile, the loonies will be hunting you till their last breaths. Overall, not to hard to think about it all, if you give it some time.

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    • The Gineer aren't just people with guns. They're selected based on genetic predisposition for conquest. Their most successful war heroes are cloned a thousand times over to keep that legacy alive. The human element is refined with the express purpose of making war.

      No, they don't shoot sparkling energy beams. They do however weaponize virulent acid, jet-propelled warhammers, flying saw blades and railroad spikes, and the kitchen microwave. Clearly, war is all they think about.

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    • SEEPAN wrote: How is a Simple, chemical-based Handcannon be cosidered more powerful than a handheld Plasma Cannon. And how is a group of three, mentally defective and unstable Clones be considered more threatening than a Robotic Quadraped that is supposed to do whatever it's told.

      In terms of Raw Power, a chemical-based rocket laucher is somehow more powerful than a fusion-based grenade laucher that is supposed to tear your molecules apart.

      Explain this to me?

      Grineer are a joke, the Corpus has rechargeable shields not to mention their pet MOAs are impossible to kill in large groups as their firing laser beams once every few seconds.

      Though the Eximus Grineer are stronger than the Corpus Eximus since grineer Eximus have a huge bubble shield on one of their units.

      In the end Corpus always wins thanks to their shields and numbers

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    • Dan67 wrote: Grineer are a joke, the Corpus has rechargeable shields not to mention their pet MOAs are impossible to kill in large groups as their firing laser beams once every few seconds.

      Though the Eximus Grineer are stronger than the Corpus Eximus since grineer Eximus have a huge bubble shield on one of their units.

      In the end Corpus always wins thanks to their shields and numbers

      The original poster was referring to the actual damage output of Grineer weapons versus that of Corpus weapons. Compare the Ogris to the Penta, for example.

      Of course, in this particular case, the Penta is designed to be more tactical. Its grenades can be laid as a trap and detonated on command. The Ogris has no such feature, instead its missile is designed purely to travel to a target and explode.

      In general, the Grineer rely on tried-and-true conventional weapons. These systems have been refined over the centuries and have proven effective. The Corpus rely on prototypes and cutting-edge technologies. They haven't had the centuries of testing and refinement, so they don't tend to be as reliable.

      Thier defensive capabilities and force of numbers are a different matter entirely.

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    • If you ask me the Corpus enemies, bosses, and wepaons are the hardest. The crewmen can overwhelm you with numbers and sheer rate of fire (not to mention their bulletproof heads), the MOA's will non stop fire at you with you since they are basically walking turrets.And the Ospreys piss me off because they are hard to hit and do things such as restore shields shoot lasers and explode.As for bosses Jackal can insta kill you with 1 grenade barrage and knock you off the platform you fight him on with one stomp.Alad V and Zsanuka both strong missle and fire attacks and can revive each other. Not to mention all of the Corpus bosses have ridiculously high rechargeable shields. I don't get how you say the Grineer are stronger.

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    • 67.81.113.159 wrote:
      If you ask me the Corpus enemies, bosses, and wepaons are the hardest. The crewmen can overwhelm you with numbers and sheer rate of fire (not to mention their bulletproof heads), the MOA's will non stop fire at you with you since they are basically walking turrets.And the Ospreys piss me off because they are hard to hit and do things such as restore shields shoot lasers and explode.As for bosses Jackal can insta kill you with 1 grenade barrage and knock you off the platform you fight him on with one stomp.Alad V and Zsanuka both strong missle and fire attacks and can revive each other. Not to mention all of the Corpus bosses have ridiculously high rechargeable shields. I don't get how you say the Grineer are stronger.

      Well the Ogris/Brakk is better than the Penta/Detron, and a single Grineer Foot Soldier can handle more punishment than a Crewman protected by a forcefield. Sure the Lanka is stronger than the Vulkar and the Corpus has access to handheld Particle Accelerators, but the Gustrag 3 can kill you faster than a Zanuka prototype. Most Grineer will have Layers upon Layers of Armour.  A Lvl 100 Heavy Gunner will take 30 seconds to kill while a Corpus Tech at the Same Level will take like 10 seconds.

      While the Corpus has more firepower at their disposal, they are more unprotected and predictable. MOAs have to lock-on before they can shoot while standing still. Shield Ospreys always has to follow a small group. The Grineer rely on raw power and survivability. The Grineer would try to ambush their Enemies if they know they are there or go head on if the enemy wasn't expecting it or know that they are padded with layers of armor. There's more Tactic and human logic involved with the Grineer. 

      I'm just asking why some Grineer Weaponry are more powerful than the Corpus.

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    • My best guess is this: While Corpus weaponry would theoretically be more powerful, they require a lot of containment fields (for plasma), focusing mechanisms (for lasers) and the like. It ends up being rather bulky and difficult to miniaturize. By comparison, simpler Grineer weapons are very straightforward, leaving plenty of spare room to pack with propellant, explosives, and shrapnel. Simply put, they can fit more pain in their handheld weaponry.

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    • I'm just wondering has any one got a ps4 clan they would be willing to recrute me into?

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    • I just defeated my first boss today and of course he was grineer I found it hard to get by but using Loki I managed to slip by them with a little bit of combat. The grineer are better strategists some even coming around to flank me. Honestly the grineer are great for steal thing around but in open battle will be an anoying distraction. Honestly the best way to deal with them is to piss off some kubrows get the grineer fighting them and run to the objective.

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    • In the end grineer are easier to stealth and compared to the impossible to stealth corpus

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    • Buggynaut wrote: In the end grineer are easier to stealth and compared to the impossible to stealth corpus

      I don't find corpus very difficult to stealth. With Loki or Ash, you can do it with ease. Enemy sense/radar mods will help you spot enemies first. Get silent weapons like Cernos (bow), Kunai (secondary), and Glaive (thrown melee), so you can take out cameras from hiding - you won't even have to avoid combat.

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    • I dont get their lore neither.

      Corpus - have Future Laser Rifles [with traveltime WTF?]

      Grineer - have the same rifles as we today [but have no traveltime]

      Really strange, but whatever! What i want to say is: AI having hitscan weapons sucks so bad i can explain!!

      In higher levels its just bullshit and in NO other game your left alone with a lvl 100 grineer doing a insta 420 1-hit where reaction doesnt play any role!

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    • the thing is that DE wants grineer to be stronger though a corpus weapon would be able to kill 20 heavy grineer in a row since railguns (Lanka was so screwed up by DE) have ~ 4 to 5 times hitscan in a single shot, boiling the blood of everything they touch while puncturing a grineer gallions hull plating, causing a hull breach and kill everything by suffocating

      while grineer weapons have so shitty blunt bullets, they deal more impact than puncture damage...

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    • i suppose the difference is that the corpus are a technology obsesed super conglomerat, most of there tech is salvaged from orokin tech and used more out of religious obsession than because the weapons are actually supperior, (or even true copies of the origional orokin tech), the grineer on the other hand are the pinnacle of function over form, their weapons are designed to do the job, not to be flashy or impressive, in millitary terms it will be cheaper to arm a battalion of marines with simple effective assault rifles than half that number of corpus crewmen with temperamental high tech energy weapons.

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    • a lot of grineer tech is stolen from corpus, also corpus are not obsessed of religious or technology things, they are just really greedy

      "Their production methods blend technology and ritual, in-part, because the ancient Orokin materials they use are inscrutable to them." (WF Homepage/corpus)

      the energy weapons they have are not designed to be "flashy or impressive" as you said, they come from a contract that limits all corpus weaponry used by them to energy based ones (Corpus)

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    • First of corpus CHOOSE to be weaker (defensivly) this is because if you look at there crewman what mechanical augs do you see? NONE. The Grineer on the other hand heavily rely on cybernetics just to keep them alive. Also what little of them that is not mechanized is also geneticly alterd for performance (think DNA screwed chaos marines). As for weapons the Corpus is scavenging/revers engineering the old Orikin tech thus it can be concluded that they have some insight but not full understanding of the technology, otherwise they would not so fervently seek to salvage it (or even teno tech), where as the Grineer while stealing Corpus tech only use it to modify/amplify weapons they FULLY understand and have tested. (Until the Damage update 2) The fact that Corpus weapons did the most damage to Corpus troops actually made sense because all their tech was from Orikin tech including their defenses (read shields). Even the fact that Grineer tech did less damage to the Grineer made sense two because (ironically) the Cybernetics required to keep them alive also allows for huge amounts of strength and thus why they can haul so much armor around, technologically the Grineer BODY is (both genetically and cybernetic) is much more advanced then the Corpus crewmen.

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    • A Lone Tenno
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