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  • Imargam
    Imargam closed this thread
    18:16, April 27, 2013

    I am making Rhino, the best and awesomest Warframe, and I got the Dual Ether just for him. <3

    I recently got an Orokin Catalyst, and I am wondering wether I should sell it or upgrade my Dual Ether with it. Help plz? :3

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    • always upgrade. double the mod points!

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    • You should go in Dual Heat Swords. It's just better

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    • Don't sell it, but dual ether is a pretty fun weapon to do infested missions with, no doubt, if you really like it or just need an infested weapon you can go ahead and catalyst it, but it's up to you

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    • Keep it handy incase you find out you enjoy other weapons, personally I prefer a two-handed weapons for warframes like Rhino/Frost. Having more armor and shields makes the slow charge/attack speed more forgiving than with other warframes. Not to mention doing more damage per attack, and hitting more enemies(depending on which heavy weapon you use.)

      The slow attack speed and charge can be somewhat remedied by mods anyway.

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    • I'd say go for it, add multiple elemental, to addsome damage against ancients.

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    • Sell it ? seriously ? selling an orokyn catalyst ? seriously ?

      Oh well, i wouldn't be surprised since you said " I am making Rhino, the best and awesomest Warframe " ;p

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    • ^ win

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    • Imargam wrote:
      You should go in Dual Heat Swords. It's just better

      WRONG!

      DUAL ETHER DOES TRIPLE DAMAGE ON EVERYTHING UPON DOING SLASH DASH(Also known as slide attack, slide slash, style slash, and sliding style slash and dash slash)!


      AND IT DOES TRIPLE DAMAGE ON INFESTED EXCLUDING ANCIENTS FOR IT'S REGULAR HITS! AND GUESS WHAT!? IT GETS MULTIPLIED BY THREE AGAIN WHEN YOU DO SLASH DASH ON THEM! MAKING THEM THE BEST INFESTED SLAYING WEAPON!

      PLUS IT IGNORES ARMOR AS WELL SO ITS GOOD FOR GRINEER AND SINCE IT HITS MULTIPLE ENEMIES AT THE SAME TIME IT'S AS GOOD AS THE FRAGOR ON CROWD CONTROL BUT WAY FASTER!


      Dual Ether! GET THEM! CATALYST THEM! OWN EVERYTHING WITH IT'S LARGE RANGE SLASH DASH!

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    • All caps rage much? Dual Heat Swords does triple damage also but how you can know that if you don't even own one... How can you compare two weapons when you have never used one of them. You did the same thing with Rhino saying it's the best Warframe when you have only Rhino and Excalibur. That's pathetic.

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    • Imargam wrote:
      All caps rage much? Dual Heat Swords does triple damage also but how you can know that if you don't even own one... How can you compare two weapons when you have never used one of them. You did the same thing with Rhino saying it's the best Warframe when you have only Rhino and Excalibur. That's pathetic.

      I have a banshee now too and she is very effective with infested with her first skill that knocks everything back.

      And Dual Heat Sword only does triple damage to infested~ While the Dual Ether's slide slash or slash dash does triple damage to all and Dual Ether can hit up to more than three targets with it's regular attacks and not only that, it staggers all enemies within range with each hit.

      I also have all the blueprints from beating up lech kril for alloy plates and more than enough materials neccesary to build Frost (and I always wonder why I never see a Frost doing lech kril) but why get a Frost when Rhino can easily be better than Frost? 

      The only sure thing that Frost can ever be better than Rhino in is "looks", "appearances", and "flashyness". Would you like a carrot nose with that?

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    • Oh yeah and Dual Heat Swords don't ignore armor like Dual Ethers can.

      Making Dual Ethers far better than Dual Heat Swords. Just like how Rhino is far better than Frost. I have solid facts to back me up unlike you and that Panda!

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    • Rhino Charge lvl 0


      Dual Ether damage

      Grineer Lancer - 49

      Sawman - 150

      Ancielt - 37

      Runner - 150


      Dual Heat Swords


      Grineer Lancer - 49

      Sawman - 150

      Ancielt - 37

      Runner - 150


      Here you have some solid facts and not your fantasy. Could you explain that?

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    • Let us not forget, if you only use charge attacks, than there is no point of ignoring armors + the polarity of DHS + the big radius of DHS compared to DE.

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    • ^ and 50% more damage at charge attack

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    • Stop living in a dream world Zarozian because the one you're creating doesn't exist.

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    • Imargam wrote:
      Rhino Charge lvl 0


      Dual Ether damage

      Grineer Lancer - 49

      Sawman - 150

      Ancielt - 37

      Runner - 150


      Dual Heat Swords


      Grineer Lancer - 49

      Sawman - 150

      Ancielt - 37

      Runner - 150


      Here you have some solid facts and not your fantasy. Could you explain that?

      Slash Dash damage you idiot and no I don't mean the skill! And why the hell is Rhino Charge up there?! Lmao~ And you spelled Ancient wrong! And I said regular attacks from dual ether does not deal triple damage to ancients! lololol

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    • Akram-The-Reaper-Panda wrote:
      Let us not forget, if you only use charge attacks, than there is no point of ignoring armors + the polarity of DHS + the big radius of DHS compared to DE.

      -sigh- Let's get some things straight here~ The area where Dual Ether shines the brightest is the slide slash or slash dash or whatever you want to call it. It deals the same amount as the Fragor's charge damage which is far more than your dual heat swords. Secondly the only downside that the dual ether has compared to the dual heat sword is that it's jump attack is single target, but hey even that deals more damage than your aoe jump attack that doesn't even knock down enemies.

      Dual Ether blades are designed to be a fast attacking weapon, hence it's overpowered 1 hit KO slash dash attack, you run at the enemy, you slide, you slash, slash, slash! and everything dies! No matter what faction they are from. It's also faster than spamming your charge attack! Cause it can be constantly spammed and repeated by someone very skilled with the slide and slash!

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    • Imargam wrote:
      Stop living in a dream world Zarozian because the one you're creating doesn't exist.

      Can you come up with anything more cheesier?

      I'ma make you eat those words after I smear them in your face when you make that stupid look after finding out how wrong you are~<3

      Maybe you should read what I typed more carefully before you make you and your friend look any more stupid.

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    • Who are you to call people idiots, Zarozian?

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    • Imargam wrote:
      Who are you to call people idiots, Zarozian?

      Sorry~ I'm just getting arrogant cause I'm usually always right~ I'm actually more discplined than that!

      But go look everything over~ You will find that everything I said about the Dual Ether is true! And it's not like you can't get Dual Ethers yourself. I'm simply helping someone choose a good weapon~ After all he is my comrade in the Rhino slaughtering Frost discussion~

      And I didn't call you an idiot. Though the definition of idiot and stupid as well as dumb appear to be very similar but they're not~

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    • OK maybe i didn't understand something. Many people call it spin attack and so do i. And i am using it right now. With no mods it's 150 damage and no armor ignore (49 dmg on Grineer Lancer)

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    • Since it already ignores armor it will do a even more signifigant amount of damage if you add a maxed out armor piercing mod and because it already deals 3x damage to infested with regular attacks adding a fire damage mod would increase it even more.

      I should probably find that old screenshot of my Dual Ether. 

      Also the staggering that it causes the enemies renders the need for a aoe jump attack more or less obsolete, notice how I said more or less. 

      To put it this way~ Dual Ether fully modded much greater difference in strength compared to the Dual Heat Sword. 

      And test out it's "spin attack" on a mining machine in one of those missions, you will find that a slash dash or "spin attack" will cut it's HP right in half just like the Fragor's charge attack.

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    • I'll repeat that. Dual Ether slash dash or "spin attack" does not ignore armor.

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    • Anyways I present to you. My terrifyingly fully modded out Dual Ethers.

      Dual Ether Fully Modded

      You should see the shit ton of damage it's slash dash or sliding attack does. Some people know it as spin attack. >.>

      And of course it would be even more terrifying if I added crit mods instead of electric and stagger increase~ But it already deals extremely high damage so why not add more damage to it instead with little extra stagger?
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    • Imargam wrote:
      I'll repeat that. Dual Ether slash dash or "spin attack" does not ignore armor.

      It still does triple damage and you can always add the armor piercing mod to it as well, I was also pretty sure it's slash dash does ignore armor as well.

      And it still doesn't change how it's regular attacks do.

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    • Hm~ What do you know! It's slash dash doesn't ignore damage~ It's just that it's slash dash damage is so high that I thought it did~

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    • So since its "slash dash" doesn't ignore armor it's the same as Dual Heat Sword (slash dash). I'm really happy that we could come to an agreement :)

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    • Just that it does triple damage, unlike Dual Heat Sword.

      Now that I have you added on Warframe. We're gonna have a contest.

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    • Should I change the subjects or should one of you make a new thread?

      (I personally like DE more than DHS in all ways.)

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    • Imargam wrote:
      Who are you to call people idiots, Zarozian?

      +1


      One word to say here > Tryharders, or maybe that kind of newbie Rhino don't know how to play this game, so they pick free win items.

      I personnaly prefer the DE because it looks really cool Imo.

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    • the whole place is only for Zarozian and Imargam smack talk. Move along. let this two argue their heads off in the net lol.

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    • 98.203.199.199 wrote:
      the whole place is only for Zarozian and Imargam smack talk. Move along. let this two argue their heads off in the net lol.

      Better stay out of our ways then or else you might get freezed and stomped on lol.

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    • Helestan wrote:
      Imargam wrote:
      Who are you to call people idiots, Zarozian?
      +1


      One word to say here > Tryharders, or maybe that kind of newbie Rhino don't know how to play this game, so they pick free win items.

      I personnaly prefer the DE because it looks really cool Imo.

      Again you prefer something for it's "looks" just like with Frost, just because it "looks" better, you can't be in either discussions if you're gonna include appearances in there because it's not about that.

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    • Also I add the "~" at the end of my sentences cause, I know how intimedating I seem to be, without them. But I'm pretty sure you guys can pretend they're not there.

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    • Actually he doesn't speak about stats.

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    • Helestan wrote:
      Actually he doesn't speak about stats.

      Wow where have you been. =.=

      Rhino's two defensive polarities aren't part of stats?

      Rhino Stomp's extremely large aoe that puts enemies out of combat and remains useful even up to Pluto and beyond?

      The knockback that Radial Blast which knocks down all enemies in range?

      Iron skin which will alwaysand forever be useful?

      Rhino Charge which can make maneuvering through levels easier and knocking down enemies in the way and goring them?


      Are those not stats or are you blind? Heck I highly doubt you've even been following along in our little debate between Imar and I. I bet you still can't even spell my name right.

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    • Seriously? Stay on subject.. Hoping you didn't sell your catalyst Shonoun! Definately keep them haha, Dual Ether are prettty fast and fun weapons.

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    • 3-Jane wrote:
      Seriously? Stay on subject.. Hoping you didn't sell your catalyst Shonoun! Definately keep them haha, Dual Ether are prettty fast and fun weapons.

      Hypocrite >.>

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    • Yea stay on the subject, I just write One thing about stats, about DE vs DHS, because you always feel free to insult people, to think you're opinion is the only one and write in caps lock, and you know, here you can debate, even if most of the time it's useless because we have our opinion, it can be good because it makes us think.

      But i don't feel you being some kind of a person, human or whatever, tha's why I don't want to write this "name". Look at what you write, Trying to teaching me how Rhino's spells are working,  but like 3-Jane says, stay on the subject, this thread is about DE and Orokin, not about Rhino.

      I will just add one more things to stop me here about you, question yourself before writing, then come back again with useful and minded comments.

      About the main question of this thread, I just agree with Jane, never sell an Orokin Catalyst/Reactor.

      And yea, I don't agree about the lmargam vs this creature, because this is an open thread, not a clever admin vs a stupid creature.

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    • Helestan wrote:
      Yea stay on the subject, I just write One thing about stats, about DE vs DHS, because you always feel free to insult people, to think you're opinion is the only one and write in caps lock, and you know, here you can debate, even if most of the time it's useless because we have our opinion, it can be good because it makes us think.

      But i don't feel you being some kind of a person, human or whatever, tha's why I don't want to write this "name". Look at what you write, Trying to teaching me how Rhino's spells are working,  but like 3-Jane says, stay on the subject, this thread is about DE and Orokin, not about Rhino.

      I will just add one more things to stop me here about you, question yourself before writing, then come back again with useful and minded comments.

      About the main question of this thread, I just agree with Jane, never sell an Orokin Catalyst/Reactor.

      And yea, I don't agree about the lmargam vs this creature, because this is an open thread, not a cleaver admin vs a stupid creature.

      clever* 

      And stay on the subject~ And everything I posted so far about the DE is true.

      Not my opinions but facts.

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    • Zarozian please i've proved DE dash slash is the same as DHS, and it doesn't ignore armor

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    • Imargam wrote:
      Zarozian please i've proved DE dash slash is the same as DHS, and it doesn't ignore armor

      It does triple damage remember?

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    • To infested

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    • OKAAAAY I'm deleting/closing this thread now.

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    • Ok i think i've convinced him. Now i'm closing it :)

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