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  • Okay, okay, im overestimating what the title says, shut up, but elemental warframes dont make much sense, i see how ember gains energy from being on fire etc, but why do cryo floors/cryo damage do the same damage to frost? it should atleast do less damage/not slow him down, seeing as he is a warframe all ABOUT the cold, the same with say...nezha, another fire warframe (i belive nezha is the other fire one, dont bash me  if it isnt pls), she should get some sort of buff in fire, and the whole "they have good passives already" some warframes arguably have more than one passive effect, so eh, other things could be like hydroid being enhanced/heal or regenerate energy in water (maybe let him swim? you'd think dipping your toes into water as a warframe that summons the fucking kraken wouldnt kill you) and such, etc etc, what are your opinions? ((Note: i dont think elemental warframes like ember/frost should be inmune to cryo/fire damage, as that would make multiple enemies in some missions just useless, and whats the fun in that?)



    Edit:I quickly realised something i forgot to mention, the dmg reduction should be vice versa aswell (frost takes X% of damage less from cryo dmg but the same % of dmg more from fire attacks etc etc)

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    • had this on my while for some time. and i may have let a bit anger out but i think overall my point stands

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    • Really,I am currently makign (manufacturing)Frost, from whtai have seen and if he is Strong as Oberon i think they are doing what they can at this point and why make frames too intense it ruins the whoel possibiltiy of trying out my modifiers?

      I Am not sure how long you have played this game but i see you tube guides where they say this warframe is almost over powered now, so lets not get too crazy?

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    • Well my Ember has quickly become extremely Over Powered. I tend to use her as my main damage dealing frame. As long as I keep moving and constantly using my stun from accelerant I usually hit grineer for over 4k each hit of my World on Fire. Which is usually enough to outright kill most enemies and I am almost always top damage and top kills. Easily out killing most Mesa players.

      I run 67/175(190)/235/154

      Growing Power and Energy Conversion

      Which sets my WoF to cast at 229 power and having a channel cost of 1.5 meaning I can hold Overheated almost indefinitely while still accelerating. I hit enemies in a 17 meter radius around me automatically while still allowing me free use of both my mele and guns. 

      Frost is one of the single best defense frames in the game.

      Nezha is extremely tanky.

      Volt can literally wipe maps on the mid tier maps.

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    • 2605:A000:FFC0:83:B051:EEC4:DBD2:7A08 wrote:
      Really,I am currently makign (manufacturing)Frost, from whtai have seen and if he is Strong as Oberon i think they are doing what they can at this point and why make frames too intense it ruins the whoel possibiltiy of trying out my modifiers?

      I Am not sure how long you have played this game but i see you tube guides where they say this warframe is almost over powered now, so lets not get too crazy?

      Is it not kinda the point to make em op? later on in the game i've heard it gets quite intense (survival missions and such) and all im asking for is that elemental warframes arent JUST as weak to their elements as any other frame (frost shouldnt take as much damage from the cold as say, rhino or excal), i see your point though

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    • Natfrog123 wrote:
      Well my Ember has quickly become extremely Over Powered. I tend to use her as my main damage dealing frame. As long as I keep moving and constantly using my stun from accelerant I usually hit grineer for over 4k each hit of my World on Fire. Which is usually enough to outright kill most enemies and I am almost always top damage and top kills. Easily out killing most Mesa players.

      I run 67/175(190)/235/154

      Growing Power and Energy Conversion

      Which sets my WoF to cast at 229 power and having a channel cost of 1.5 meaning I can hold Overheated almost indefinitely while still accelerating. I hit enemies in a 17 meter radius around me automatically while still allowing me free use of both my mele and guns. 

      Frost is one of the single best defense frames in the game.

      Nezha is extremely tanky.

      Volt can literally wipe maps on the mid tier maps.

      Nice now try that after 40 (or even less) minutes on survivals against grineers and if you are still alive you are not dealing any damage...

      The point of the game is not the damage dealt , it's a cooperation game...

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    • ok

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    • lol

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    • Kagekun101 wrote:

      Is it not kinda the point to make em op? later on in the game i've heard it gets quite intense (survival missions and such) and all im asking for is that elemental warframes arent JUST as weak to their elements as any other frame (frost shouldnt take as much damage from the cold as say, rhino or excal), i see your point though

      There are mods that do that already.

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    • JESUS HITLER CHRIST WHY HAS NO ONE ELSE BROUGHT THIS UP TILL NOW?! AND WHY DOESN'T THE DRAGON (for those who are unaware, its Chroma) HAVE THIS THING EITHER?! Warframes tied to elements NATURALLY (Not Excal with Chromatic Blade augment) have any of this?! AND WHY CAN CHROMA ONLY HAVE THREE ELEMENTS? WHY CAN"T PURPLE BE RADIATION AND THE NUMEROUS OTHER HALFWAY COLORS BE THE COMBINED ELEMENTS? SHOULDN'T WARFRAMES USING WEAPONS WITH DAMAGE OF THEIR TYPE HAVE BETTER DAMAGE WITH THOSE WEAPONS?! ALL OF THESE CAN BE ADDED!

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    • PAST NEVER HAPPENED IM IN CONTROL OF MY LIFE (every loki player when they remember when loki sucked)

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    • 2604:2D80:C404:8D4D:C8FF:71EC:C903:6367 wrote:
      JESUS HITLER CHRIST WHY HAS NO ONE ELSE BROUGHT THIS UP TILL NOW?! AND WHY DOESN'T THE DRAGON (for those who are unaware, its Chroma) HAVE THIS THING EITHER?! Warframes tied to elements NATURALLY (Not Excal with Chromatic Blade augment) have any of this?! AND WHY CAN CHROMA ONLY HAVE THREE ELEMENTS? WHY CAN"T PURPLE BE RADIATION AND THE NUMEROUS OTHER HALFWAY COLORS BE THE COMBINED ELEMENTS? SHOULDN'T WARFRAMES USING WEAPONS WITH DAMAGE OF THEIR TYPE HAVE BETTER DAMAGE WITH THOSE WEAPONS?! ALL OF THESE CAN BE ADDED!

      chill,but good idea,sort of but yeah good

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    • Natfrog123 wrote: Well my Ember has quickly become extremely Over Powered. I tend to use her as my main damage dealing frame. As long as I keep moving and constantly using my stun from accelerant I usually hit grineer for over 4k each hit of my World on Fire.

      Oh man, that's comedy gold right there.

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    • Natfrog123 wrote:
      Well my Ember has quickly become extremely Over Powered. I tend to use her as my main damage dealing frame. As long as I keep moving and constantly using my stun from accelerant I usually hit grineer for over 4k each hit of my World on Fire. Which is usually enough to outright kill most enemies and I am almost always top damage and top kills. Easily out killing most Mesa players.

      Ember is such a bad frame right now.  DE nerfed her, basing her gameplay on how players see her at low level content.  Ok DE, you solved the "issue" of her using WoF on low lvl maps and wiping enemies too fast, and now you will never see any ember players past star chart.  I can only see a few scenarios where you would out dps/kill a mesa.  It was probably a low level map where enemies would have died in 1 hit anyways or the Mesa wasn't built correctly and didn't have LoS because of bad positioning. 

      And to the topic, I think Embers passive is quite good.  There might be other frames with better passives, but there are far more frames with useless passives as far as combat is concerned.  With the introduction of the napalm mod from nightwave, there is another viable source of self fire status.  If anything, it's her other abilities that need a re-work or tweak. I wouldn't mind if frost got a new passive based on cold element. His current one is pretty useless.  If you're a frost in defense, you'll be in a bubble anyways, and if you're not in defense, you should be constantly moving. He should never be tanking melee hits in the first place.

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    • Kagekun101 wrote:
      nezha, another fire warframe, she should get

      For the record, Nezha is a guy You mean, "He should get"

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    • Its 2019 and you guys are still pretending Nezha's a girl.

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    • LET THE MAN DREAM

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    • ok vro thanks for sharing i gess

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    • Kagekun101 wrote:
      with say...nezha, another fire warframe (i belive nezha is the other fire one, dont bash me  if it isnt pls), she should get some sort of buff in fire...

      This guy called Nezha a girl ooohh

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    • ok boomer

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    • I feel like if there were mods for all kinds of elemental damage resistance (So far I know we have Radiation, Heat, and Toxic) then letting Warframes have innate damage resistances, even small ones, might not be a bad QoL change. Perhaps it could be part of that armor rework update everyone's talking about getting around to?

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    • 152.26.11.112 wrote:
      PAST NEVER HAPPENED IM IN CONTROL OF MY LIFE (every loki player when they remember when loki sucked)

      Bitch. Starter Loki was how you taunted everyone else picking the "useful" frames, then surviving the entire fight while they dropped like flies.

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    • If you are so much in RP you can always add a resistance mod (with new tenno armor/health/shield stats may be even usefull)...

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    • imagine being so uncultured you think nezha is about fire. I already had enought of idiots thinking wisp was about some ghost shit.

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    • also I'm pretty sure frost MAKE ice out of air. he is not, and I repeat he is not made of ice to take more dmg from heat.

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    • @Kagekun101, I'm going to have to agree with you there. The devs should fix the damage types (like the fact Frost should be weak to fire or Ember being weak to cold damage or even water killing Hydroid).

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    • The problem there would be that there are quite a few prominent sources of fire damage. But what actually deals Cold damage?

      Would be quite the pointless and unneeded balance change.

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    • True.

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    • I haven't considered that.

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    • just imagine chroma getting so much buff when hes under effect of a random status effect
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    • @ "Generaly The Idea of Elemental Resistan Warframes" Great example of pointless complexity. Just one more thing to balance, that adds absolutely nothing into the game... Also, on this very wiki you have mods you can RP all day long: wiki/Insulation wiki/Warm_Coat

      @A Lone Tenno > "every loki player when they remember when loki sucked" Mine Loki never left foundry, farmed it for completion sake and now he wait ~ now that I think about it, might be 3-4 years already xD mostly because when I encountered Loki specter on rail, fight was spectacular (remembered it to this day): 1. I click the button and glass start going up, 2. as it reach the top I hear a shot, 3. it was Loki geting 1 shoted by my Dirga, 4. as it happens, epic junction music start to play, 5. that was most glorious way I ever experienced to accompany pressing a button (one for proceeding to next planet).

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    • Kagekun101 wrote:
      "the same with say...nezha, another fire warframe (i believe nezha is the other fire one, dont bash me  if it isnt pls), she should get some sort of buff in fire"

      Just a quick comment, Nezha is actually a guy, based on a Chinese demigod. Said legendary hero has often been portrayed as androgynous.

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    • 2604:2D80:C404:8D4D:C8FF:71EC:C903:6367 wrote: WHY DOESN'T THE DRAGON (for those who are unaware, its Chroma) HAVE THIS THING EITHER?!  AND WHY CAN CHROMA ONLY HAVE THREE ELEMENTS? WHY CAN"T PURPLE BE RADIATION AND THE NUMEROUS OTHER HALFWAY COLORS BE THE COMBINED ELEMENTS?

      A bit crazy of a way to voice it, but alright...



      The reason that Chroma can only make use of the primary elements (Heat, Toxin, Electricity, Cold) is that he was intentionally designed that way, in an homage that was carried down all the way from his birth as a fan concept. 


      You see, he was created to homage four of the five traditional primary Chromatic Dragons from Dungeons and Dragons, whose scale color determines their elemental breath. The mountain-dwelling Red Dragons are the traditional gold-hoarding princess-eating fire-breathing type. The desert-dwelling Blue Dragons breathe streams of lightning. The forest-dwelling Green Dragons breathe puffs of toxic chlorine gas. The tundra-dwelling White Dragons breathe clouds of freezing vapor. The only way Chroma could be a more complete reference is if shutting his lights off with a dark energy color gave him Corrosive damage, as the only unrepresented Chromatic dragon,  the swamp-dwelling Black Dragons, breathe gouts of acidic bile.

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    • Ladyvan wrote:
      The problem there would be that there are quite a few prominent sources of fire damage. But what actually deals Cold damage?

      All I know about is that the Corpus keep exploding barrels of Liquid Nitrogen around, and Hyena LN2 of the Hyena Pack is fueled by Liquid Nitrogen as well, being able to freeze Tenno in place and fire ice bullets. On the non-Corpus side, the Orokin have freezing floors (that don't deal damage, only slow,) and Lieutenant Lech Kril can weaponize his armor's coolant system to freeze players in place and send out icy shockwaves.

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    • -Nezha

      -"She"

      Absolutely lost it, the community wasn't joking when they said the Nezha meme originated because some people mistake Nezha as female when they first see him because of his body proportions.

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    • A Lone Tenno
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