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    The mod was + 80.3% Multishot and + 70.8% Toxic

    I recently had my first experience selling a Riven, I got this riven for the Euphona prime:

    [Euphona Prime Toxican] + 80,3% Multishot and + 70.5% toxic

    I didn't use the Riven so thougt I'd sell it. I discovered then that the market was incredibly chaotic for Rivens. I just chose a price of 200plat after looking at a few rivens scrolling by in trade chat and quickly got a response from a buyer.

    Now I'm wondering: was it cheap? Was he/she just a big Euphona Prime fan? The market has no way of selecting an accurate price due to the random factor of Rivens. As someone that usually uses warframe.market to buy/sell mods and parts I think there should be some kind of in-game market that also allows for sale of Rivens, that way it's easier to determine a price for it.

    What do you guys think about this? I was utterly confused at the time by the difference in prices.

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    • The price varies to the weapon's popularity, stats of the Riven, and even the Polarity (sometimes). So, it isn't a wonder actually; why the price is very unfixed and all. That is before taking demands and supply to account (especially when it was newly released).

      If the weapon is popular such as the Tonkor/Soma/Dread, it gave a good impression of how lucky that guy getting a Riven for it. Even better, if its stats fits perfectly for all of them (in this case): Crit Damage AND Crit Chance, maybe even +something good, and rarely a negative stats that boosts the previous stats and didn't affect the weapon's performance. That is what makes it goddamm pricey as heck, and making it "God-Tier Riven Mod".

      If the weapon isn't too popular such as the Braton, it needs 2 things to be pricey: great suitable stats and a demand for it. Make it maybe Status Chance/Status Duration/Multishot. Even with great stats, without any demand you'll find that it will take a good while before you get one. The weapon of this kind is usually the Neutral Disposition Riven Weapons.


      As for the starter price: a riven price is around 35-50 as their default price. 40-50 for a veiled riven. Then, the stats compliments the price even more. If unrolled and not a good stats, it is 40-45. If the weapon is popular/newly released, before taking the stats in account: it will worth a lot by default, ranging from 150-250 maybe (can be more, can be less).

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    • For example, I recently sold a Tenora Riven Mod. Rerolled it 25 times, to get this stats: 115% crit chance, 98% crit damage, 87% toxin. Tenora is pretty new, although not too new (the most recently added to the game).

      Tried to sell it, "WTS [Tenora] Riven Mod, PMO," but got no offer. After 4 days of sneak peeking the trade chat, Someone said, "WTB Tenora Riven mod with Crit Chance AND Damage, PMO," Needlessly said, I PM-ed him this Riven mod. I was genuinely expecting around 200-300, due to the usual nature of the buyers who prefers cheap things (which I am not too interested in selling if they offer this much). Then he responded to my offer, by 1.4k plats. I literally go "1.4K! WARGHAGHE HOLEY WASABI IN A SHITAKE MUSHROOM!" Nuff said, I take the offer.

      Easily said: 3 factors. 

      1. The popularity of the weapon
      1. The age of the weapon (since its release)
      1. The stats (the most important thing, which can negate the previous two factors)
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    • The riven mod is very random by its nature, which is why the warframe.market can't be used to promote our Riven mods. I asked one of the Guide of the Lotus, which they responded like the previous statement.

      So, yeah. RNG. Goddamm. I bid thee good luck!


      P.S. I think that mod is great, by the way. 200p, is okay imo. Quite nice stats too. Gratz for that ;D

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    • Thanks a lot for all the information and the experience you shared, now I know what to do when selling Riven mods a bit more. 

      Guess you must've been pretty glad all that rerolling delivered :)

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    • TimoCornelissen wrote:
      Thanks a lot for all the information and the experience you shared, now I know what to do when selling Riven mods a bit more. 

      Guess you must've been pretty glad all that rerolling delivered :)

      I never expected that much though. Good surprise :)

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    • Riven mods were great in theory but after some months and watching the market with rivens, they are like u playing on slot machines to get a jackpot. I honestly think there should be a limit of plat per transaction of riven mods, but that's not on the interest of the games devs ofc.

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    • 94.132.162.119 wrote: Riven mods were great in theory but after some months and watching the market with rivens, they are like u playing on slot machines to get a jackpot. I honestly think there should be a limit of plat per transaction of riven mods, but that's not on the interest of the games devs ofc.

      Why would you put in a limit? It's a free market. The limit is what you're willing to pay. As with real-world economies, the moment you put in a maximum (or minimum) price for any commodity, it distorts market forces by creating a sanctioned "value" for a good that it independent of its supply or demand.

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    • that is the reason we have FTC and the EU has fair trade laws and consumer protection. To protect the the market and its currency from becoming unstable. and thus erroding the faith the consumers have in a stable market.

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    • Sooo... What is actually the recommended price of plat I should be willing to pay for a badass riven mod? 1.4K!!!!!!! nah... 200p-350p should be alright.

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    • Can we use the disposition as a rule of thumb?

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    • So most used weapons are usually the strongest but has a 1 dot disposition, so that would be 300p while a disposition of 5 dots would be 50p, then figure in rolls and stats, 1 dot disposition with amazing stats would be 500p, bad ststs with low rolls is 300p, while 1 disposition with bad stats with high rolls would be 150. Does this formula work? If not please create a simple formula that is acceptable to most players. Ill start taking notes of rivens and what there going for and see if i can find a formula that gets close to predicting values. Heres my issue though certain weapons have extremely high values like the tigris prime probably upwards of 1,000 plat, the reason for this is because rivens are soo easy to get ripped off when trading

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    • how much nami skla pleci critatas go for plz

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    • Sterma albatros wrote:

      94.132.162.119 wrote: Riven mods were great in theory but after some months and watching the market with rivens, they are like u playing on slot machines to get a jackpot. I honestly think there should be a limit of plat per transaction of riven mods, but that's not on the interest of the games devs ofc.

      Why would you put in a limit? It's a free market. The limit is what you're willing to pay. As with real-world economies, the moment you put in a maximum (or minimum) price for any commodity, it distorts market forces by creating a sanctioned "value" for a good that it independent of its supply or demand.

      Market Values mean absolutely nothing when it comes to this level of randomisation. Like another person said, strict controls or the potential for sanctions comes from government intervention to keep things as stable as they can be. I argue this overall is a ridiculously terrible idea for institutions and their interactions. But if we're going to be using them we're going to have to be using them properly at least, and thus basically getting the best use from them.

      That being said, putting a cap on Rivens wouldn't be the answer. But having dedicated forums where the trade takes time and especially major players in the community put their input into the price and such would really bring Riven trades together more. Because you'd build up a base of information of the weapon + riven stats and disposition, and how much those probably should cost. And you'd base even future trades on these early standards, and re-evaluate the information/prices again maybe once or twice a year to keep things balanced and reasonable Market Forces never provide Reason to any useful or meaningful extent.

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    • think you're selling someone something great, except the community thinks its trash and a scam?

      but the buyer agreed to price and you threw in something extra?

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    • TimoCornelissen wrote:
      20170416151904 1

      The mod was + 80.3% Multishot and + 70.8% Toxic

      I recently had my first experience selling a Riven, I got this riven for the Euphona prime:

      [Euphona Prime Toxican] + 80,3% Multishot and + 70.5% toxic

      I didn't use the Riven so thougt I'd sell it. I discovered then that the market was incredibly chaotic for Rivens. I just chose a price of 200plat after looking at a few rivens scrolling by in trade chat and quickly got a response from a buyer.

      Now I'm wondering: was it cheap? Was he/she just a big Euphona Prime fan? The market has no way of selecting an accurate price due to the random factor of Rivens. As someone that usually uses warframe.market to buy/sell mods and parts I think there should be some kind of in-game market that also allows for sale of Rivens, that way it's easier to determine a price for it.

      What do you guys think about this? I was utterly confused at the time by the difference in prices.

      i did the some as you my friend

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    • i wanted 200plat from people i am selling or buying 

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    • I have a halikar geliata riven mod how much is it worth it has +15% cold and +27.2% melee damage I rolled it 4 times

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    • An I also have a ohma geli-utidra riven mod with +7.7% channeling efficiency an 8.1% cold and 4.6% attack speed never rolled

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    • I have a riven for hikou that has + status % and + cold% no negatives . I understand the deposition for hikou is low and was wondering what a mod like this would go for on avg. Knowing that hikou is a status weapon

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    • Hi, I have a Caustacyst Riven that has +64.2 damage, +3.1s Combo Duration, +39.8% Heat, and -38.1% Range. I know on an average Caustacyst Riven are roughly 130 platnium. So, how much do you guys think this mod is worth?

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    • Is there any way to formulate a pricing for Rivens? Based in stats, re-rolls, rarity, weapon popularity, etc..? That way people can get an idea of what to list their Rivens for. I know there are many variables but I guess some sort of base to work on would help. That way we do not list it as over priced or way under priced.

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    • How would people rate this riven? I can't remember the exact number of the first two stats but heres what I know



      I have an Ooltha Zaw riven that has

      Plus critical chance (Past 100%)

      Slide attacks have a increased chance to be critical (I think it's past 90%)

      reduced combo duration (-4.3 seconds)

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    • Price check on opticor riven 10 rolls maxed with +225% crit chance +160.7% piercing damage and -24.7% damage to grineer. Ty

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    • A Lone Tenno
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