So I did upset you @Ladyvan .
Read the thread from the beginning and take note to what I advised the Op.
What I advise is far more achievable than what you or the others offered for where they are in the game.
MR 4 getting blood rush, weeping wounds, condition overload, prime reach lol
You all completely missed that.
The Op will have no idea what better weapons are and will never learn unless they try different weapons along the way.
Keep on calling people stupid, dumbass and being abusive to players when put on the spot @Ladyvan.you do it quite often.
Oh dear, did I upset you @Ladyvan .
You said a terrible weapon will be terrible even with mods yet I can prove you wrong hence why I suggested the Skana.
You have also so said all melee are over powered many times yet believe the Skana isn't as capable as say the Broken war you mentioned. Lol
You call me a dumbass lol
@Ladyvan i wrote, i will put my well modded Skana against your un_modded melee and let's see if mods don't make a difference eh?
I don't see you accepting my challenge now do I?
I also wrote it in bold in case your stupid and don't understand.
@Ladyvan you gave him something he cannot achieve.
No such thing as melee meta.
I will put my well modded Skana against your un-modded melee and let's see if mods don't make a difference eh?
I shake my head sometimes with the advice players give on this wiki.
We have the Op an MR 4 player who really doesn't understand how to build and we have @Ladyvan giving advice about mods he won't have then saying Big thinking isn't required to swap them out to other inferior mods?
Why didn't you even realise in the first place your advice was useless to the Op?
The chance of an MR 4 having those mods let alone the endo or enough credits to max them and enough forma to equip them is a fat zero.
Id be surprised if he has those inferior mods you mentioned maxed out.
We then have @Valkyr Umbra saying that the statement 'its about the mods not the weapon'' is untrue, again what a load of rubbish.
Without mods any weapon is terrible, let's expand. Anything is terrible without mods!
I see your all trying to help yet not one of you realise where the Op is in the game.
So an MR 4 has that build to follow?
Yeah right, good luck with that Shred.
Do you even realise the Op won't have hardly any of the mods You just recommend?
Get the syndicate mod for the Hek it will make the weapon much stronger.
Melee meta? Doesn't exist. 3 months behind? Try over 7 yrs behind.
Like is said mods are the key, look in your codex and see how many mods You don't have?
Max those you do and learn how to build with the mods You have.
It's not about the weapons it's about the mods on your weapons that make a difference.
You say your new so your experience in building weapons will be limited to this and the mods You have.
It arrives when it arrives.
Grakata also not in this poll so has no relevance.
Here is my opinion,
The majority of the community are a decent bunch but the majority are casual players hence why their are so many dumb questions and suggestions on the forums and on here.
The word toxic was created by immature new players when presented with the truth, nobody likes the truth but the more mature of us accept it.
I see everyone pointing blame all over the place but the truth is its DE, YouTube and the players fault for where the game is today. The ones moaning and complaining all have responsibility for this.
The game has been out over 7 yrs and no developer can continually bring new and challenging content all the time, it's impossible.
No game has ever done this or will do this, fact. You will always get players moaning or whining whatever a developer does.
The problem with YouTube is it helps and hinders, these YouTube presenters have huge sway over the majority of casual players and this influences DE, ever heard the term shout long enough and hard enough and people will belive anything?
They show builds, affinity farm, xp farming, solutions to quest and missions, the list is endless to which players then follow and learn nothing themselves. This in turn leads to players rushing through the game thinking they know the game, they don't.
Here are a few examples of how DE made things easier following players and YouTube complaining,
LOR removed, log in system changed 3 times, Tower keys changed to relic(destroyed trading) , eidolons introduced to allow players to get arcanes then made easier, enemy strength reduced when fortuna was released, Lich's made weaker and easier to farm and accessible to new players, Railjack made a lot easier and accessible to new players, focus rework 3 times.
These are just a few of the top of my head the list goes on and on yet players still complain.
DE do listen, the problem is they listen too much. If everything is made accessible to everyone then there is nothing to strive for. This is maybe why the Veteran players are complaining?
As for players maybe they should try to enjoy the journey of playing the game instead of power leveling, watching YouTube constantly for solutions instead of working it out themselves? Try farming items and resources instead of buying everything?
How can a developer create something that's sustainable when the moment it's released a YouTube video goes up and shows how to complete it all?
As for Vet's I can see their side as the developer's are catering for the new players,why wouldn't a business do this? Content is made easier and more open to the majority but a Vet should understand this by now as it's been happening for years.
A true Vet really doesn't care anymore as they have accepted the game for what it is now. By true veteran I mean a player who has been in from the start with many hours continuously playing, who understands the game mechanics inside out. These players have no need for the trivial stuff like endo, credits, focus, xp, Plat they just play the game the way they want.
I am not defending DE, having a go at YouTube or new players I just don't see the point of completing when I can do very little to change anything.
Instead of complaining go work for DE if you think you can do a better job.
Baza and Hind not on the poll so have no relevance here.
Burston as it has a syndicate mod and high riven disposition.
Far better than any version of the Braton.
Look on the news feed in game.
To the Op if your bored play something else.
I doubt You or many of your clan actually explored the game to its fullest anyway?
To run a clan takes effort by everyone in it, yet many dont understand the game properly as it takes time and new players are the first to moan about lack of content, nerf"s, difficulty, bugs.
You say it's dying but players come and go all the time, the game has a ton of casual players who don't explore anything the game has to offer and this is why so many come here and on the forums asking dumb questions and offering stupid advice.
YouTube is also to blame for the number of players joining and leaving, when you have those idiots offering solutions to builds, farming, affinity gain, quests or mission guides the list goes on.
How can any developer's create new challenges when the moment it's realeasted some YouTube plonker gives the solution to its completion!
Since you mention Lich's did any of your clan actually farm every Lich weapon and max them to %60 damage or did you just trade for them because it was easier?
The Lich system wasn't made for new players yet it was made easier and players moaned it should be available to everyone so DE submitted and players still complained ffs.
The players who then follow these YouTube muppets complain 'I have nothing to do yet have done nothing but copied everything they were shown'
I'm not defending DE I understand that nothing they do will ever satisfy the player base but I do understand to play the game how I want.
The community as a whole are decent its a pity the Op has met those who dont understand the game and enjoy it, maybe then they wouldn't have stopped.
To the Op your mr7 (MR really doesn't mean much though) and its very likely You don't have many mods or understand how to build properly due to the amount of time you have played.
The game really is big so You won't be running through it anytime soon.
Read about damage in game and on this wiki then you will be able to mod and kill enemies quicker with the weapons You have or get.
Max mods and learn how to build.
Those that do recommend weapons don't understand where You are in the game and it will not help you in the long run, try different weapons to find out what You enjoy, this is part of the game and the learning process.
Those naive and easily offended new players will say I and the others here are not helping because we always say read the wiki or learn how to build but it's the best advice we can give you for now.
Resource booster every time as certain missions offer drop chance booster anyway, just look for them in the star chart.
To the op the warframes You have can already do dps, the problem is your mr4(not that MR really means much) so you probably haven't been playing too long and won't have the mods or knowledge to build them well.
Concentrate on your mods and make the frames You have strong. The same goes for weapons, it's about the mods you put on that make them stronger.
Solo is far easier than team play.
So any frame can be used in anything when playing solo.
Wisp is only as good as the build and how you play them.
Wisp isn't that easy for a new player to get though.
If your in a clan get one of the frames from the dojo, Nezha is a Gr8 frame and far easier to get than Wisp.
Entirely up to you though.