Idgaf what frames people play

I’m so glad I play solo. ☺️

Whilst MR level in itself is completely non-indicative, lower MR players are generally more receptive to input than higher MR players in cases when mistakes are being made, so I usually try to highlight if a player is misusing a frame depending on the mission type (i.e. accidentally/unintentionally bringing Slowva to a compact defence node like Hydron or Helene) if it's a low-MR player - and if that doesn't work/it's someone I think is probably going to be far too arrogant to realise their mistake, I simply abort and reset the mission. In their defence though, most of the Limbo mains I've come across are remarkably skilled with their choice, and Limbo's poor reputation stems from the relatively few instances that occur with someone who either doesn't spend too much time on that frame, or has just started out with him. He does have the highest skill floor of almost any warframe in the game so mistakes will happen in the process of learning his toolkit, because people have to start from somewhere before they understand how they can make the most of what he can do.

Anyone who takes this game seriously and whines about oPtImIsAtIoN is just silly.

This isn't even about optimisation; it's simply about baseline competency. Limbo is the kind of frame whom if misused could easily disrupt a mission so it makes sense why some players would develop an issue with the associative bias relating to frames like him if the bulk of their past experience suggests that "presence of frame X = guaranteed bad time." 'Optimisation' is a different discussion entirely, because now you'll be talking about mastering skill ceiling, and although there are many threads on this wiki as well as on Reddit AND the Forum which allude to the fact that there's a significant subsection of the community that is naturally dedicated towards that aspect of the game, it's obviously not as essential as understanding the fundamental mechanics enough to surmount the skill floor (i.e minimum competency) requirement, because doing so is ultimately what makes the game playable at the most basic level.

Eh. It's all the same cringe to me.

Edited for spelling.

Limbo isn't hat bad. Now if I see a Mesa in a Rad proc sortie mission... I'm leaving.

Limbo isn't the problem at all. The actual problem here is a combination of the mistakes often made by people who're learning to use him, along with the disproportionate perception they generate among those who are tilted by bad experiences with a Limbo player concocting the idea that there's anything intrinsically bad with the frame or the players that main him - and IMO neither case is necessarily true. Most of the time, if you take a minute or two to tell someone where they're going wrong, they'll acknowledge the feedback and use that advice to improve the way they interact with that frame. Immediately writing people off because they happen to be using an unpopular frame long before you find out what they can do with that frame seems rather short-sighted and knee-jerky to me.

Really juts depends on what mission it is and how they use it

I agree also abigailwasright writing whole paragraphs lol