Talk:Wukong/@comment-2601:1C1:8101:123A:4C71:92B3:967C:27D7-20190123072046/@comment-174.131.68.178-20190204023830

Pretty much. When built properly Defy can out-tank any ability in the game. His Cloud Walker is essentially useless because it's not even needed at all or useful in a sqaud.

His 1 isn't that useful in a squad.

His 4th can be useful for killing most of the content in the game. Especially if you put some real TLC into building around it, like the Narumon tree really helps amoung mods and arcanes, but many frames can kill with far less effort or time put into the build. Plus you'll likely be taking a lot from Defy to do it.

If you want to go into an endurance survival solo run and feel like going until the dps from your equipped weapons falls off, Defy is perfect. Unless you run into a null bubble you pretty much will not die. Ever. Regardless of enemy level without any armor or shield mods.

But for a squad yeah, he's about the worst frame you could use. Thankfully DE has said they are keeping Defy for his rework, so as long as any of the rest of his reworked kit is significantly better than it is now to go around it he should be an amazing frame. Especially since if you really know what you're doing with Defy you can spam away on his abilties and have nigh-endless energy doing it. All he needs is other abilties worth using