Talk:Ember/@comment-108.4.94.22-20130517190953/@comment-75.169.84.138-20130518005036

Well, Banshee just got nerfed. Not sure what her ult is like now (but it was never very good against Ancients, it was a crowd killer). Sonar is ownage on bigger enemies like Ancients.

Ember is a bit mediocre, but I hear her ult is being reworked. So she may become really good in the future. For now, I really can't play her against the tough lvl 100 stuff.

I think Saryn is a better alternative to Ember when it comes to fighting infested. Her ult works better on ancients since it ignores armor and pretty much kills everything else. She also has crowd control with her moult.

I own all three of these warframes and use them frequently. Between Saryn and Banshee. Saryn is more no-skill, just use your ult when things are crowded. Banshee has more Ancient killing potential with her sonar ability, but it requires you to aim a bit. Banshee also has the ability to move enemies, so that's pretty useful with toxic Ancients. So Saryn is like a crowd killer, while Banshee is an assassin with minor cc.