Talk:Saryn (Warframe)/@comment-172.12.126.142-20140131061150/@comment-76.110.132.55-20140131152809

Oh boy.

I stated that damaging abilities stop being useful before the end of the star chart, pointing to how utterly useless they are in end game content. Unless enemies get weaker as the game goes on, are we talking about different games? That would explain so much. Furthermore, "Ability damage gets by in lower levels, but not even by the end of the star chart will those abilities not do their job, ''unless you use ridiculous mods to make those powers a bit sronger. And if you have those ridiculous mods, you should have a decently modded weapon that can outdamage any fully boosted ability." ''I want to say that should explain itself, but you have very limited (or perhaps selective?) reading comprehension, so allow me to elaborate: Most strength maximized ultimates deal roughly 2.5-3.5k damage for absurd energy, and require multiple high level rare mods to achieve (even more if you want to counteract the negative effects of maximizing strength). With only a catalyst and no forma, I have an Ogris that can deal 4k per rocket, firing a rocket every second without worry for energy (and no worry for ammo, because running out of ammo with launchers is a damn miracle). I also have a Soma that deals roughly 900 per crit shot at 75% rate, firing 14 rounds per second, damage depending on enemy resistances. That is equivalent to 79,380 dps, assuming fire rate is fully spooled, using the 900 estimate, and factoring in crit chance. That damage can double if I aim for weakspots, something abilities are incapable of. Tell me then, why would I bother wasting energy to add 200-600 dps (assuming you're maximizing strength, btw)? Why would I ever bother wasting 25 energy for Venom to increase my dps by roughly 0.4%, even if to a crowd of enemies?

Now I have a challenge for you. Get your dumb ass out of the star chart, go find level 50+ enemies ALONE. Use whatever weapon you prefer for popping spores unmodded. Use Venom there and tell me how amazingly quick it's killing enemies. Tell me how amazing, when you don't have teammates using their own weapons to trick you into thinking you're dealing decent damage, tell me how amazing Venom is then. If your answer at this point is anything other than to state it's anything but useless, I really have no desire to continue this discussion, as you are too blind to accept that you were wrong about something, and the kind of people who are willing to grasp such small straws to justify their inefficient playstyle as good, let alone optimal, are the kind of people I have no desire to speak with.