Talk:Ember/@comment-71.120.106.171-20180323070627/@comment-4776171-20180519095353

Her fireball and fireblast are better now, yes. Her WoF got a sidegrade, which now serves a purpose (short range nuking) that Gara can do infinitely better due to infinite scaling, along with several other frames who do it just as well as Ember now can.

Ember had a comfortable position being used for two things; taking out the tedium of low level missions, while alternatively acting as widespread CC with firequake. She is now incapable of doing either with any relevant level of effectiveness.

For this purpose, she is objectively worse, and now replaceable. That, is what people are complaining about. It's not about taking away the convenience, it's about taking away a purpose that other frames previously couldn't easily substitute.

Stop using 'effort' as an excuse to try and sound better than people who prefer convenience.