Talk:Nova (Warframe)/@comment-66.56.57.227-20130816092316/@comment-208.104.34.34-20130819133101

Not sure if the dude trashing Ember can see. Ember, while at "SUBER WAVE 9000 XINI I DA BEST, NOT YOU!" may begin to lack in damage, is completely viable and very powerful in all levels of normal gameplay. Even xini to around wave 20 or so. When rating a warframe for myself, I DO take mods into account, because I'm not going to be playing them without mods... dude above me is dumb as shit. I also do not rate a warframe on ONLY high level defense waves. it's about general gameplay. Farming mats/blueprints, and yes, defense maps to get mods. To those that get their kicks playing defense maps to wave 150 and so on, more power to you. But I don't think it's fair to rate a frame solely on the ability to carry a team in that type of scenario. Ask anyone who actually does defense maps to those levels, and they'll tell you to get a vauben with a torid, a nyx with an ogris, a Loki with an ogris, and a frost/rhino/nova with an equally powerful weapon. (you can really just run infinite waves with those 3, the fourth is a bonus).

and dude...:

"Please, actually play this game. And just because you NEED to use OP stuff doesn't mean it isn't OP. Leave calling "OP" to people like me; the players who actually can grasp the concepts of 'Overpowered" "Needs balancing" and actually have legit skill to judge if something is balanced or not."

You sir may be the most conceited person I have ever heard ramble about themselves.