Talk:Ash (Warframe)/@comment-115.87.122.34-20130623135550/@comment-7738447-20130623151628

Orthos is the best weapon in the game for Charge damage. It has the best DMG/Charge Time in the game, together with the best range and etc. Also Orthos has the best DMG/Attack speed in the game. While Hate has 40 damage with a 1,2~ fire rate, Orthos has a 50 with somewhat similar firerate ( seems to be a bit slower? ). Also, Orthos is the best leveling weapon in the game IMO. I just go with my 24 Orthos on Io ( Jupiter - Infested defense ) and it One-shots until wave 9. And its a oneshot from 5 - 6 meters away ( which is insane! ). Also Orthos is much easier to get hands on, with very cheap crafting materials. But if looks mater for you, go with Hate. That thing is sexy ( only loses to Reaper Prime in looks - too bad R. Prime sucks so much )!!

What I'm saying is : Orthos is better, but don't always go for the "better". Almost everything in this game is viable.