Talk:Vauban (Warframe)/@comment-5908036-20130907033021/@comment-13899984-20130907063957

Okay first off, grammar. It's a thing in places.

Secondly, you contradicted yourself. You're claiming, as far as I can tell, that people are complaining about Vauban's most useful ability being nerfed into the ground...yet you're arguing that other Frames who are one-trick ponies are fine? How is that even right? You can't say that Iron Skin is okay because it makes Rhino entirely invincible for a time and that's fine, but Vauban having infinite CC is bad without incurring a logic loop that kills your argument.

If Rhino didn't have Iron Skin, he'd be a dude with some CC and some minor damage and a buff.

If Frost didn't have Snowglobe, he'd be a psuedo-tank with no tank abilities.

If Nova didn't have Molecular Prime, she'd be totally useless.

Now that Vauban doens't have infinite CC, the one thing he's known for being good for, he's just as bad as Mag...