Talk:Loki (Warframe)/@comment-24.205.37.155-20140608231225/@comment-26401141-20140611032850

^ loki is in my top 3 frames, and i still can't agree more with the replier above. i did start out as him, died lots like a noob, but got better as i progressed. now, more than before, i feel that loki is one of the more fun frames to play. partly because early on in the game i just used rhino, rhino, and rhino and got super bored with the same playstyle over and over. then i picked up loki again after he was collecting dust (i almost sold him lol, big mistake there) and am super happy i picked him. he is OP. no denying it, haters can say whatever they want, and that Ash vs. Loki in conclaves whatever, whoever is better is totally situational, so there's no absolute way to win that argument because both sides have extremely good points. (personally i like loki better...but i've never played ash :D even though i have all his parts, just 2 lz to build cuz need to lvl my trinity)

loki isn't "master race" or any of that nonsense, because a masterframe would want more shields and health than him. loki isn't a master race because he can't heal his whole team and buff them with invincibility in dire moments (sorry but sometimes disarming all enemies doesn't cut it; unless you are a perfect person who never makes mistakes with his abilities you can't save your team 100% of the time with a radial disarm+invis and melee combo+decoy+switch teleport [i got the order in which i usually do it completely mixed up lol]), and loki can't mind control a priority target like dat sexy nyx (also in my top three <3)

am i bashing on loki? definitely. does that mean i hate him? definitely NOT. like i said, one of my top 3, at least for any missions that aren't defense (i know some people use loki very well during defense missions, but i can't stand doing defense unless i'm a cc type warframe or a frost lol, sorry just a pet peeve)

loki is one of the best frames out there. that's a fact, not an opinion. he's a good frame, one of the better ones in the right hands, but he can easily be ruined if overused (too much of a good thing is never good) or if used in the wrong hands. if you are a boss with loki, by all means, use him. if you suck with him, like many players may have when they started, just keep on practicing or move to a different frame. (people who play multiple frames are the best :D!!!)