Talk:Vauban (Warframe)/@comment-140.158.69.127-20140418233601/@comment-143.167.94.220-20140422120055

(Update 12.4.6) With respect to later waves in T3 defense (35+) imo i think there are more viable frames.

Basically..

Bastille affects enemies that rush you. For the most part, your biggest problem in the void is heavy gunners (most damage dealing, most health). They don't rush you, they shoot you as soon as you are in their line of sight.

So throw bastille on them?

NO! At waves 35+ (T3 defense) you will start to rely on enemies killing themselves (Nyx chaos) as THEIR damage scales but YOURS doesnt! Ammo is the limiting factor where there begins to be not enough ammo drops available to replenish the bullets used to kill all the heavies, it will take a lot of bullets, even on a 3x forma soma crit build with heavy cal and triple elemental mods for example.

Bastille is therefore situationally good when you want to revive someone, but that's it.

Vortex, bounce and tesla won't help you later on.

I very viable setup includes:

NOVA (dmg buff on you and a debuff that slows on the enemies)

FROST (globe protects the pod and protects you when the enemies can one shot you)

NYX (enemies kill each other and they won't kill you)

??? (i took MAG in slot 4 because pull is an extremely energy efficient, chainable stun for reviving players and shield polarise instantly restores player and pod shields on demand)

Don't mean to cause offense, it's just my opinion. i don't mind playing vauban, I was just referring to my experience in high end void defense and his viability.