Talk:Ignis/@comment-184.23.128.52-20131018073001/@comment-23841937-20131023084742

The key differences are base damage and the inclusion of Heavy Caliber on the Ignis and not the Ogris, where Ogris substitutes that slot for something else; we'll say a 30% Bane of X mod to make math clear:

Base damage per second on Ignis = 150, multiplied by the exclusive bonus from Heavy Caliber (+165%) = 247.5.

Base damage per second on Ogris = 500 (we'll assume you aren't hitting everything directly since that's not viable most of the time). Multiplied by the exclusive bonus from Bane of X (+30%) = 650.

All other mods, including Firestorm, are equally available for both weapons and so they don't factor in. The Ogris does Explosive Damage which scales damage down depending on distance from the detonation point, but since it's doing 263% the base damage of the Ignis it's going to be doing just as much damage even on its outer explosion edge.

TLDR: Ogris is still better. Believe me, I wish it wasn't, I hate killing myself too :|