Talk:Ember/@comment-34447440-20180209184530

900+ hours on Ember, without running Ember meme build, in level 80-120 content in pretty much everything but eid hunting and raids. Don't have time to go beyond that or an interest in the two I mentioned. She is fine in high level and still can deal enormous damage despite the parrot memes that everyone and even some youtubers I follow parrot without any thought or attempts to see if they can do something differently.

The changes are a failure of design. They won't affect their intended target builds and playstyles and they can be ignored by the build and style it more greatly affects, which is ironically the build and playstyle DE seems to want Ember to utilize. There is a slight cost in Energy for WoF, but seriously, Ember doesn't have energy problems and WoF can pay for itself. I'm fine with a WoF nerf, but this change doesn't really accomplish anything meaningful but socially/mentally scare meme-Embers away (even though they aren't affected and in some cases are buffed)

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