Talk:Ogris/@comment-177.82.18.144-20131213012328/@comment-91.125.172.212-20140107132812

Shred is is a mixed blessing on the ogris but I use it at max rank myself. Being able to shoot through a mob (and do collision damage) then hit it for AOE damage when it explodes adds dps. Being able to shoot through thin barriers or walls or doors adds to the tactical convenience. Having your rockets sometimes just vanish, doing no damage really sucks, but overall, +30% fire rate translates to about the same increase in dps and the punch through mechanic adds more than it costs, if you learn to use it correctly.

You want a shallow angle of incidence to limit the vanishing rocket problem, but some areas of some maps are just rocket sponges. Learn to avoid shooting at them.