Talk:Cleaving Whirlwind/@comment-2A01:E34:EE17:4B30:E0BD:5A36:9E84:6D0C-20171111173142/@comment-25096985-20171113014440

perhaps you forgot about that bleed is calculated by total base damage, which is modified by the stances multipliers, not to mention weeping wounds allows for a lot of weapons to status proc often, so 1 or 2 forced bleeds during a combo isn't as good as 7 or more 4x bleed procs

so I highly doubt any new stances are as powerful as this oldie