Talk:Red Veil/@comment-2603:9001:3E8F:8D00:1C24:D87C:F344:D87D-20180717182752/@comment-173.79.38.239-20180818021809

First off, what you said about Suda and the Arbiters are somewhat untrue. Suda was a human during the Orokin era who became a cephelon (if you didn't know, cephelons, at least those from Oroking period, are made from the minds of deceased humans) and Suda wants are simple: knowledge, so she is not left deliberately mysterious. The Arbitiers are most likely decendents from the Orokin Empire due to their fairly decent understanding of the Tenno and Orokin principles. Now to answer your question, the Red Veil are the decendents from the early followers of a Tenno name Rell (go do the Chains of Harrow quest or visit Rell's wiki page on this wiki for proof), while New Loka are humans (or human-like) who just want to have a clean Earth. Judging by their beliefs, it seems that they may be from the Orokin era as other people from that era, such as Margulis, dreamed of having old Earth restored.To answer parts of your second question, many of their stuff are funded by unknown means as each syndicate are independent from the Tenno order and have different agends.