Talk:Menticide Nyx Helmet/@comment-186.205.85.56-20130530223658/@comment-8002187-20130610174144

Yeah, I get what he's saying - essentially the same thing we are, he just chose to phrase it in as unpleasent a way as possible.

The thing is, not all mod values work so simply. That's why we presented the information in the way we did. Of course 5x2 is the same as 2x5. But effects like Redirection don't always get applied before or after things like base values, nor are they necessarily altered in a consistant manner. So for claritys sake, it's important to note order, not just assume it's obvious.

Look at the bonus that comes with the helmet for example. You gain a bonus to Stamina in exchange for the shield loss, but that bonus, though it can also be expressed as a percentage, is always a flat rate gain - it has no interaction with mods at all, unlike the penalty.