Talk:Ash (Warframe)/@comment-10354824-20130910211645/@comment-222.165.51.113-20130913050008

The comparison will never end, it all depends on your preference really. If Loki appeals to you more than Ash, good on you. But for others like me Ash suits my playstyle more. Both are very similar, but require different approaches to enemy contact. Having more energy or longer skill duration is a diffinite plus. Loki is also the fastest warframe in terms of base speed. Ash is meant for those that like the 'up close and personal' kind of fight. IMHO the reason why Ash's invisibility is shorter is not for stealth purposes but to buy enough time for that extra edge to kill everyone in the vicinity. The fact that Smokescreen increases melee damage is proof of this. Loki can achieve this effect by casting Invisibility and start shooting as well. He also has the option to make a better escape with the extra time limit given. In exchange he does not have damage buffs while invisible.

Loki's skills do not offer direct offense and must rely solely on weaponry to deal the damage. Ash's skill damages may be fixed even at max but can be use to soften the enemy up or finish them off, either way still a means to conserve ammo when energy seems to come plenty. Loki's ulti removes weapons and thus there is no need to worry of bullets wearing you down but a serious potential of getting blugeoned to death if careless. Ash's ulti may not kill everyone in a mob, but it makes you invincible in the duration and allows shields to replenish giving you better options for your next move.

The problem I see when comparisons are made is that majority of those that do want a "End-game Warframe with the end-game weapon that one-shots level 100+ enemies". Honestly, where's the fun in that? Only in desperate situations when your shields are down and your health is at the single digits does the thrill of getting out of the fight alive kick in. It's the whole point of playing the game offensively. Think of those whiner babies in COD that scream and cry everytime they get killed from their own incompetence; it's slowly becoming the same situation here people. Seriously, just have fun guys it's just a game.