Talk:Nyx/@comment-180.190.174.82-20190721001614/@comment-31848479-20190722012027

The problem with Vauban and Nyx isn't necessarily that they're bad, it's just there's better options. Tearing armor isn't hard enough to require an entire warframe to do it. A lot of weapons can easily strip armor on top of simply killing them. Excluding that, there's better options for armor stripping, the most obvious being Corrosive Projection. Frost, Mag, Saryn, and Oberon have both solid survivability and armor tearing as well as so much more than what both of these characters have. This is ignoring frames or weapons that deal enough damage to kill regardless of armor scaling.