Talk:Destreza/@comment-178.204.107.25-20160117210242/@comment-25593327-20160221204427

Formas are not the solution, as any weapon can use them. Those don't make progression different from nearly every other frickin' game, you know, and that's not the only tool of modifying the weapon in the gaming history. Again, how Warframe is different?

I'm pretty sure Excavations are both time and Excavator count-based after E Gate nerf, but I may be wrong, I don't do them really often. 40 still seems unprobable even for defence.