Talk:Grendel/@comment-2600:8800:7001:A405:59B0:C775:BC49:A44C-20200107224737

To date, I've dumped Formas into every frame; I've always attempted to optimize my builds regardless of how effective or meta a Warframe is, but with Grendel? I see no point in continuing the tradition. If I want tanking & damage buff, I've got Chroma, Rhino, Garuda, Titania, and Nezha to run with. If I want raw tanking, I've got Chroma, Rhino, Garuda, Titania, Nezha, Inaros, Oberon, Valkyr, Wisp, Hildryn, Nova, Nyx, Wukong, Gauss, & a SLEW of better options. If I want to have fun mobilizing while being a tank and throwing around some scary DPS? Titania, Nezha, Wukong, & Gauss can all do it WORLDS BETTER than Grendel.

Grendel isn't even second best in a specialized role or in a hybrid role. His 3rd and 4th are absolutely useless, his 2nd's randomness and pitiful Health restore provides even more reason to ignore him, and the channeling mechanics of his 1st tied into the fact that you need his 1st active to even use his other abilities severely cripples his practicality. I don't know who at DE thought that this hunk of garbage would even come across as remotely appealing, but they need a position more befitting of their cognitive faculties; preferrably swabbing out the studio's toilets after hours.

Given the difficulty in obtaining this sorry POS, I'm calling this the Second coming of Atlas: Dead on Arrival. Nothing quite like gating garbage behind a challenge to incentivize players. This is the first Warframe whose only role is MR Fodder.