Talk:Nezha/@comment-31848479-20180703024617/@comment-31848479-20180724112325

preemptive cc implies that the enemies aren't actualy in firing range when you place it down, which means even if you're somehow hugging every possible door in the room then you're probabily lucky to get half the duration on an approching enemy. this is ingoring the fact that the fire wave itself has maybe 4 meter thickness, so you can't relap unless you want to get fired at against enemys that aren't stunnlocked on the already nearly expired fire. my whole point about chakram that it does fck all damage while requiring you to kill the damage. do you know how many abilitys require you to actualy kill the target? harrow(who is the definition of a offencive utility frame) eternal war(which is on a pure offence frame) primal rage(which is on an exalted weapon) descerate(which is a frame that his whole theme is death) and pool of life(which litteraly no one cares about) to name a few. you can even argure that trinity has a build specificaly designed so you don't have to kill your enemies while still doing your job. atleast nyx bolt deal finisher damage as well as an easy radiation proc that lasts even in a nully bubble, plus nyx is famous for being able to tank with assimilate. nezha can't take advanange of his own healing ability because once his bubble is gone he'll likely die in one or two hits. despite all this, i can agree that nezha can be considered more of a spread-out support. his mobility combined with  his hit-and-run CC, a duration-based mark healing, and guardian to show who's taking damage, this frame can be used to safely hop between allies and heal health based tanks safely. this concept still seems in desperate need of a more general use with atleast a few buffs.