Talk:Excalibur/Umbra/@comment-35867323-20190209111405/@comment-99.161.94.48-20190223192504

I have, at this point, been pretty on point with my callouts of what DE is going to do lore wise, but, unfortunately, I'm ready to take an L for this.

Would be pretty great if, in the future going forward, the other Umbra's either: A. Required Mastery of the standard version of the frame[which I'm sure most people would have by then] B. Had it be an "upgrade" deal that inserts the Umbra personality into base warframes. C. Some variation/mixture of them both.

But, they honestly already have a pretty solid basis for a few of them.

Remember, the original Valkyre was lost to Corpus experimentation. The personality for them is already present there.

The OG Limbo blew himself asunder via his experiments.

The OG Mirage died fighting to her last breath.

We put these off as stories and just DE throwing fancy writing for us. But this all really ties in well. I mean, the thing that has probably thrown everyone off was that Umbra had the Prime status when first dropped. But really, it's not a Prime[despite the looks.]

Who's to say DE might not dig up these instances of Warframes acting in errant ways being the very personalities that make "Umbras."

The potential for the lore is already there. It's BEEN there. The implementation is really the key.