Talk:Excalibur/@comment-181.160.245.27-20160527214053/@comment-86.159.225.123-20160528184310

May as well be nerfframe its certainly not buffframe (Hydroid limbo Oberon etc.) To be fair excal needed the ranged damage as valkyr an wukong have the tankiness to move close at high lvl content. They should've jus left it personally, yeah its strong but takes at least some effort unlike ash spam equinox nuke etc.