Talk:Saryn (Warframe)/@comment-46.114.213.30-20150406132116/@comment-88.156.155.35-20150407173624

That's because up until a certain point (enemy level >50) a Miasma build far outperforms a Venom build. Low level enemies die too fast for Venom to take it's full effect, especially when there's other people in the party. Not to mention Miasma benefits from negative duration which makes some of the dual stat mods like Transient Fortitude or Fleeting Expertise especially appealing.

Granted, the higher level the enemies get the more Miasma becomes just an AoE stun instead of a damaging ability but most people don't bother with ultra high level content like level 100+ enemies since it's not worth the effort, the rewards, for the most part are the same as level 20-40 missions so why bother?

Venom is an amazing ability for higher tiers however Saryn herself is not very good at surviving higher tiers, her 155 Armor and 450 base Health while formidable against level 30, even 40 mobs is nothing against a group of level 70+ mobs, who by the way will obliterate your Molt in a fraction of a second making your positive duration build even more redundant.

Melee on Saryn? Sorry but she simply lacks the kit to make it viable past a certain point. She can't go immortal like Valkyr, she doesn't have Chroma's insane armor buffs, she lacks the stats and Abilities to make it work. It does works on low level missions but past a certain point you'll be dead before you even run up to an enemy. Melee at high levels will only get you killed, more quickly.

Her 3rd Ability is the most useless skill in her kit at the moment, no matter if you're building posisive or negative duration, that skill is crap, for starters it should apply Toxic damage to ANY weapon, not only melee. Even then it'd still be a mediocre skill.

Saryn is awesome, she's my main frame and I love her playstyle but I can't deny the fact that she lacks so much needed Utility for end game content where her damage falls off pretty horribly and 3/4 of her Abilities become completely useless.