Talk:Ogris/@comment-13303221-20130806030116/@comment-114.76.237.11-20130808090746

When you put the right build on the ogris it does way more damage on ALL enemies, as the wiki says it can basically 1 hit everything in the game. I have used both torid and ogris and by far the ogris is a lot better. I have my ogris potatoed :D