Talk:Nova (Warframe)/@comment-66.56.57.227-20130816092316/@comment-24.231.123.122-20130816173901

The real crybabies are the ones who need to insult everyone else who are raising justified complaints.

Ember: Complete shit. Useless frame outside speed-running low level (around 20) missions. Weakest and most pathetic ulti (It can't even 1shot infested chargers at xini with max focus despite she's 'anti infested' and they take 2x dmg). Has 0 useful skills, overheat easily being beaten by shade sentinel.

Frost: Not an offense frame to begin with. Has defense/support abilities to make up for not having uber raw dmg.

Rhino: Same as frost, but even more support based.

Nova: Has 2nd highest speed since Ash got balanced, 50 armor which is higher than most supposed "offense" frames, her ulti KSes everyone ontop of making everything take 2x dmg.

Please, actually play this game. And just because you NEED to use OP stuff doesn't mean it isn't OP. Leave calling "OP" to people like me; the players who actually can grasp the concepts of 'Overpowered" "Needs balancing" and actually have legit skill to judge if something is balanced or not. Ash was OP before his balance. Rhino's Iron Skin was OP before rebalance. Now they've been balanced and are still kick ass with skill, as it should be. Nova is now the least skill-requiring frame.

@ 2nd replier, Frost is not meant to be offensive in the first place. Ember IS the weakest of the 'offense' frames, to the point she needs to be competely re-designed to be fair to those who use her. At high levels she is the only worthless frame.