Talk:Ash (Warframe)/@comment-37.238.128.88-20150704025352/@comment-174.61.114.60-20150707234906

This is incredibly stupid.

Every frame has their specialities and weaknesses, so how is it possible to overlook it?

(These people must do)

If your saying a Loki needs quick thinking or vitality to be of any use, say no more. Every frame has 4 abilities, and they have 4 abilities for a reason. How difficult is it to switch places with a decoy to recast stealth, equip augument mods, or disarm with loki? Not at all. The same goes for Ash. What pain is there in slaughtering enemies, on the downside of not being able to disarm them? What pain is there in being invisible and tricking enemies (By a bad decoy and switching places), while rendering their ranged weapons useless against you, your team and your objectives? There is no pain, because each of the frames are built FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.

Ash can go stealth, but not as long or stealthy as Loki

Loki can go stealth, but not as brutally as ash.

And if you have time to argue about which frame is better, spend more time arguing how to kill a nullifier. For some, it may be obvious which frame can kill one with an ability, and go in like Lord of the Rings (Ash). For others, it may be obvious that you can have the most damaging weapons in the game, and shoot the shield without being detected. (Loki)

In the end, this is just another pointless argument. At least, argue something thats NOT the complete opposite, like ember/frost. But if anything, cheapshotting people by calling a Warframe completely useless is out of place in this area, and you should do that on the not-so-free anymore free to play with mostly restricted access game Roblox for kids, or legue of legens (I won't waste my time spelling the name of that ^@^& game, or correct the grammar of this comment). Heck, you might even have to pay for leage of legens. Also, even the mods are tired of hearing this argument.

Heres a better argument. Have the huge part of the community argue which is better, boltor prime or phage? Completely opposites. Ones a freaking bolt gun, and ones a death laser shotgun (With an adjustable beam). One can puncture through endless amounts of enemies, and one can reach over 10,000 viral damage, or 6,000 viral, corrosive and heat at the same time with over 70% status/sec chance. They may both eventually run out of ammo, but the phage can last at least minutes longer, while the boltor prime just sprays through a crowd of enemies. At least, for me, its no fun arguing anything like this, because what is clearly a fact?

One is a rifle, and one is a shotgun.