Talk:Excalibur/Prime/@comment-29781487-20190304061143/@comment-2A02:C7F:C09:7F00:7172:A2B0:5F4D:4559-20190404180532

Umbra is a straight up kick in the nuts to Founders. He has 3 mods that Excal makes EXTREMELY good use of, AND they are stronger AND he's pre-made for them with Excal Prime having no way to get them (you'll want to use Umbral Forma on things other than E-Prime). Not to mention his passive AND 2nd abilities are just a straight upgrade.

It's nice and funny having E-Prime and all, but it's VERY frustrating having the item you paid so much for to back the game made completely invalid. Personally I'm fine with Umbra having the same stats as E-Prime, but having a complete upgrade and pusing E-Prime into redundancy is just a little much.