Talk:Loki (Warframe)/@comment-69.157.148.147-20131021004138/@comment-98.15.240.98-20131101022609

well, there's one of your problems already. you tried loki unpotatoed. to bring out his OPness, i believe he will take a potato, at least 1 forma, and a maxed out energy siphon. Then use a build like the one Triburos has, along with the essence helmet

this is from a seasoned player who has used started with loki, sucked, and eventually got really good with him. saying a utility frame like loki is underpowered...well think of it this way. Loki won't kill as fast as those "killy" frames for lower-mid levels (mobs are lvl 1-40). once the mobs hit 80 and up, you will notice yourself spamming your ults to kill anything at that point, whereas loki can press 4 and make those mobs virtually useless and harmless (grineer/corpus, not infested though). and loki is good at staying alive as long as you are constantly using his abilities. at later stages of the game, your damage and kills just depends on what weapons you have, and whether or not your abilities can compliment those weapons (like how i use vortex on vauby with my torid=massive pwnage, everything dies, just shoot at that mass of gathering bodies, rinse and repeat). loki and ash are the best for melee charge builds hands down, if you die while charging  that's just your fault for being careless lol. loki's decoy is a life saver when placed in the correct places, his invis speaks for itself and 2x melee charge attack dmg. switch teleport can be used on a decoy far away to take you places hard to reach, or can be used to bring downed teammates closer to the rest of the team. and radial disarm...is radial disarm.

I will admit, you need to be super careful when playing as loki. even experienced players can die in one second if they arent paying attention.

and a loki without energy is a dead loki. highly not recommended for nightmare missions, i use rhino for those (if you have maxed streamline you can put a quick iron skin in even after the first energy ticks away, this acts as a form of "shield")