Talk:Ash/@comment-107.171.205.166-20170113000127/@comment-108.16.46.232-20170120043524

And the people praising this rework are most likely the same ones who bend over backward right up between their own legs to fellate DE at every possible opportunity while scoffing at critics between gulps. Generalizations are fun, aren't they?

Every warframe worth its salt fills some niche in the game; there is a REASON for them to exist. Ash has none. He has no crowd control, no synergistic utility, no tankability, no prolonged stealth, and now even the one speck of relevance he did have - fast DPS - has been taken away from him. Rather than rework his 4, DE just slowed it down. Ash as he exists now has no incentive to be used except short-lived novelty.

But wait, "I BRING HIM TO SORTIEZ ERRDAY!!!" I already hear it cried. Congratulations. Here's a ribbon to go with that extra chromosome. You can make even the most poorly designed warframe work by sheer brute force. Top tier weapons and enough maneuvering will get you through almost anything if you try hard enough. The question is, why? What have you accomplished by bringing Ash to anything? What did you contribute to the squad besides the occasional fatal teleporting behind a juggernaut? More specifically, why did you pick Ash over any other warframe in the game? The rework is bad because instead of elevating a boring ability to greater synergy or interaction while keeping at least the same effectiveness, it only took away the one remotely useful thing about it.

Play as Ash to your heart's content. Enjoy the rework if you like it. But don't pretend you can sweep every criticism of the rework under the same "LOL lazy press 4 to win babby" rug. Because THAT is the laziest, most sheeplike response you could make.