Talk:Frost (Warframe)/@comment-194.46.247.53-20131102154339/@comment-206.183.119.95-20131111025918

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You think Frost's other powers are worth much, and THEY'RE the noobs? High armor is useful, but for armor to even come into effect your shield must be down, in which case you're probably in the process of getting stunlocked to death anyway, and speed would be far more useful (See Vanguard helmet).

Highest strength doesn't make a damn bit of difference when all of Frost's damage powers fall off a cliff late-game. Since none of his damage powers have armor ignore, you'd probably do more damage flicking ice cubes at level 100+ enemies.

I assume you've just been using Frost in low-medium level areas, in which case armor is not an issue, and so might think Frost has useful damage. Try him on a high level alert, and you'll see that having the highest power strength (Excalibur has the same power level, and they're only better by 15%, a fairly small margin) has almost no effect when 70-80% of it is stopped by armor. Compare that to Excalibur's completely armor-ignoring powers, and Frost's damage looks pathetic.

Early game, any frame can do any job. Late game, Frost's only worthwhile power is Snow Globe (and possibly Avalanche, but 100 base energy is a lot to pay for a tiny stun). Things may change come Armor 2.0, but currently Frost is almost always relegated to baby-sitting/emergency team-saving duty. It's what he's good at.