Talk:Ash (Warframe)/@comment-218.93.251.23-20140114205116/@comment-77.167.191.171-20140114223738

I think Ash is the best frame for that job. Compared to Loki he has better defenses to be right in their faces, and while his invis doesn't last as long as loki's, it's cheaper to cast. It also has the stagger effect upon cast, which is really usefull if you're build in and need to reposition yourself. Loki might get swamped and not be able to get away, regardless of any teleport tricks he may have up his sleeve. Ashes smoke bombs are a lifesaver in that regard. To top it off his Blade Storm keeps ye safe while recharging, and if you time it right and pay attention to how many enemies are present, you can remain invisible for the duration of the skill (I tried to cast smoke bomb during the bladestorm, but so far I haven't succeeded). Paying close attention to what Shade is doing is key to succesfully maintaining invisiblity during these manouvres, as I think he can cloack you ones you get out of Blade Storm (can somebody confirm that?). Loki's Radial disarm is of course a great skill, but it doesn't really contribute anything to a stealth-melee build.