Talk:Excalibur/Umbra/@comment-84.215.92.214-20171129171241/@comment-46.72.221.185-20171201152728

I think that it's gonna be as much of a kick in the balls for founders if he'll have the same stats as prime. I mean, imagine that you're a founder. You have Excal Prime. You complete Sacrifice quest and all you get is a more fancy looking version of your Excal. Except, no forma, i guess. It should be a sidegrade of some sort to Prime. I don't think he should have altered abilities though as some people say. That'd be bullshit. They could as well released another frame in that case. Just give him slightly different stats, different polarities, and maybe slap a unique passive on him. You know, like all prime frames get enegry from death orbs. Give Umbra something like that.