Talk:Hate/@comment-9711596-20130527211743/@comment-88.156.13.101-20130528183051

Lets see i have both gram and this with maxed fury and i cant decide which one is faster but i can decide that vertical swings are better than horizontal imo.

Both charge and recovery time does dmg (i havent tested if they can damage same target twice)

40 v 50 dmg 200 v 200 charge

For charge attacks i would probably choose gram but when i put both swing and charge mods on my hate(who needs reach anyway) and 4 elements i dont regret anything.