Talk:Sanctuary Onslaught/@comment-35445297-20180429215404/@comment-24.231.123.93-20180503061432

I'm an Ember "main" of 4 years and I find her completely worthless in this mode. Without Overheat (removed because it was "OP" but now Mesa, Mirage, Gara and Trinity all have the same ability. . .) she has no durability for 50 grineer sniping you with 100% accuracy across the grineer asteroid base boss room (or anything beyond 30m). WoF is completely worthless due to the range falloff, small initial range (this wouldn't be an issue if MOST of the maps in the rotations are huge and have multiple floors), low fire rate/crowd control unless you use firequake (and augments should not FIX abilities, they should specialize them, WoF is supposed to be a high-dps ability) and the damage reductions (Ancient Disruptors -95% damage from powers, Ancient Healers -50% taken + immunity to status ailments, + Ancients taking 50% less fire damage, Grineer armor quickly reducing Fire damage to 2-digit numbers, corpus having 5 nullifiers for every 1 MOA) and she doesn't pack enough damage for anything past wave 2 of normal onslaught, let alone 5. Build max power, and 1 acclerant + WoF combo eats 1/3 of your primed flow max energy (Hey didja know Saryn Prime has more energy, as a Tank, than Ember, a "mage" ?). This also leaves you no room for durability mods, which since they removed operator-mode-invince on your warframe for this mode, you NEED to either room-nuke or be a tank. But if you build for survival, your already-low-damage powers become worthless outside of the occassional accelerant + fireblast combo, and that only works on anything in 20m of you and only for up to wave 4 even with blind rage on.

Mini rant about frame imbalance aside, I'm glad some people actually realize the drop rates aren't the issue, it's the stupid efficiency drain. I've spam killed enemies as quickly as the game spawns them with mesa by abusing a long-hallway. I've nuked maps every 5 seconds with mag's polarize + crush spam. I've done ever possible nuke combo, both solo and duo with a friend also using nova. The efficiency drain is still impossible to beat even as early as wave 6. How can we get khora when wave 8 is impossible?

This isn't endgame. Sortie is a better end-game than this. This is just dumb and unbalanced. And given how buggy it was on release, and still is, 2018 is looking to be a very bad year for Warframe. Given the other lackluster and let-down content we've gotten so far, this is going to be a bad year for Warframe if this trend keeps up. DE clearly doesn't care about quality anymore. I mean they stopped caring about balance (for Frames and enemies) when Nova was released so. ..