Talk:Excalibur/Umbra/@comment-2402:1980:1C4:6837:A58A:4D6D:9D05:745B-20181025104910/@comment-2600:1003:B022:E2FF:3D8F:4548:9D60:2FFD-20190111063425

To the Lone Tenno who said there was no evidence, Lorewise Ballas created Umbra found it to be a success and later commissioned the Primes. And either way, you don’t have evidence either so you can’t talk