Talk:Archwing/@comment-25461387-20141019054912/@comment-17703786-20141020191218

Plat rushing - All this does is make you recieve the items faster. In no way does rushing items with platinum make the player be better at the game. A person who has his Tiberon tonight is objectively no better at killing enemies than a player who gets his Tiberon tomorrow. And once both players have levelled up and upgraded their weapons to maximum, there's no difference.

Plat Trading - Players who have the patience to not pour money can get plat through trading. It's slower, but a free player can still get the same platinum that a paying player does if they're persistent enough.

90-Day Boosters - Boosters don't make Warframes or Weapons better, they just make levelling up faster. However, a Level 30 Warframe is the same whether the player paid for a 90 Day Booster or not.

Prime Access Packages - Again, this is only a matter of convenience, i.e. paying to have it now instead of later. Once a free player does get the Prime weapons by grinding or trading though, their Prime weapons are identical to those that the player who paid does.

Terrible RNG is subjective - some players have all the luck, some don't.

Also, Progression via items is not "Winning". "Winning" is, well succeeding at mission objectives, which paying with platinum does not make easier at all. A person playing for free who only has a handful of weapons and a couple of Warframes can still accomplish the game's objectives the same as a paying player. Only completionists and collectors would think that the game's victory condition is equivalent to getting each and every item in the game. "Swag" (aka cosmetic) items don't make you complete missions and quests faster, they're just there for you to show off.

You can't call Warframe "Pay To Win" simply because of your skewed definition of what "Winning" in this game is. "Pay To Win" is only such if the payment affects the actual gameplay's mechanics exclusively, like say if you can only get a particular mod by paying for it. Since everything that can and does affect game mechanics can be farmed or won for free ingame though, Warframe cannot strictly be defined as "Pay To Win". Getting newer and shinier items is not a mission objective nor a victory condition.