Talk:Karak/@comment-82.239.197.59-20150516210318/@comment-25506106-20150519132956

Karak is Mastery 0, Dera is mastery 4, requires 2 fieldron and a Forma, to do less combined damage per shot. The only reason you can be comparing these is because you are trying to sway people in the Tyl Regor Tubemen event, which is silly since DE has not announced actual stats for the upgraded versions of either. Take similar complaints to the proper place, on the Dera Vandal and Karak Wraith pages instead of on their base variants.