Talk:Ash (Warframe)/@comment-71.224.11.76-20140127035254/@comment-24406583-20140127144344

"First off. Loki absolutely fucking sucks. Please shut up about him. Not to be abrupt, but literally 1 napalm can deck the strongest Loki. Ash is relatively unkillable when used right. He is basically a rhino that can turn invisible. Literally you can mutilate hundreds of enemies and take no damage if you have an energy efficient one. Loki I've maxed. Nothing is redeemable about Loki except invisibility. Otherwise he can make a shitty decoy, use a shitty teleport, etc... Only thing good about Loki is final move because it can stop enemies effectivness permanently, but at the cost of dying every 5 seconds and having random, generally unorthodox, useless moves. Ash is the warframe of warframes. Played right is a super rhino that can turn invisible. That is all."

LOL, THIS NOOB!

If you really think Ash is even EQUIVILANT to rhino, then Please, show us all how it's done, solo Ash in a survival mission, make it to level 70+, and make it to extraction without dieing once. If you can do that, then you will all prove us wrong, but if you can't, shut your mouth, because not only do you not know how to use loki right, you're trying REALLY hard, pulling every bit of crap out of your ass to say that Ash is the equivilant then Rhino, when we all know he wouldn't last in solo to level 45, because level 30 is the exact point to where all damage specials dwindle off, INCLUDING Ash's, rendering ALL of his specials useless in the later levels, while he has little CC to even keep him surviving through extract, but unlike loki, he doesn't rely on his specials to do the most damage, he's a utility warframe, which is perfect in later levels. Unlike Ash, I can actually EXPECT Loki to at least make it to level 40+, because his utility specials will still be in use. I'm not trying to discredit ash in anyway, if anything, he is a great warframe, but you on the other hand, don't know how to use warframes right even in the slightest, otherwise you would've realized his potential in later levels.