Talk:Warframes/@comment-72.64.217.68-20140414034027/@comment-108.183.190.165-20140415210501

Vauban is great, but the most random to get. Unless you get lucky to catch a random alert...

Ember and banshee are fun, but underwhelming. They do their job, but someone else can do it better.

Ash is basically a Loki that's not as good.

Really, Excalibur, Ember, and Ash should be the starting frames, since they have a direct upgrade available. Rhino > Excalibur, Mag > Ember, Loki > Ash.