Talk:Ember/@comment-164.159.152.2-20161128231227/@comment-173.18.205.5-20161212042519

I wish they'd handle more primes in the same manner as Ember P. Ember P is the only prime that feels like a different frame while every other prime is basically just a forma'd version of the normal frame. 1 forma on Frost and you have Frost P -75 base shields and the fashion, it's pretty much the same thing for every other prime. Unless a prime has an increased energy pool the stat buffs change practically nothing.

I'm guessing they stopped making primes like Ember P because a large portion of the playerbase was probably upset they couldn't copy and paste their normal Ember builds on to Ember P.

PS. You can make usable builds w/o forma. Completely vanilla set up is possible [Vitality, Redirection, Flow, Streamline, Continuity, Intensify, Stretch, a syndicate augment, with Handspring at w/e rank fits in the exilus] and is totally 'viable' in everything besides (maybe) trials. A high duration build is easily possible w/o forma also.