Talk:Excalibur (Warframe)/@comment-24.153.59.18-20141111195437/@comment-79.117.95.200-20141112175901

The problem with Excal's rework is that almost all build he has require him to use overextended so to lower the spam rate since you affect a larger area and overextended lower the jump high (thus invis duration too) of Super Jump making it almost useless, new Javelins are nice but it still has 3s cast time which is immense since he's vulnerable for that time frame so you need natural talent to get over it since now you need to spam javelins.

My main gripe with the change is that he was brought to a spam frame level (in my opinion) and the fact that he still isn't newb friendly due to all of his short comings (no reliable low cost dmg, no clear defensive skill, and a huge cast time on his only reliable dmg source).