Talk:Ember (Warframe)/@comment-156.34.173.65-20130510012947/@comment-62.204.233.156-20130516055229

As somebody who has maxed all the frames (bar Volt) I really don't see her value, even against infested. Fire blast kills all light infested up to high levels, yes. But so does: crush, sound quake, avalanche, miasma and more. And when you're at higher levels it's not the light infested you have to worry about, but the sheer number of ancients. I use a Saryn with maxed flow, streamline, focus and continuity and her miasma is far more efficient than WoF. Especially seeing as it IS armor piercing and it ISN'T just limited to a few enemies. It's also a great chance to stun high level ancients if an ally has fallen.

Whenever I take saryn I render ember almost useless beyond waves 20 when the ancients start to flood in. Beyond 20 I'd rather have a Loki placing decoys around.

IMHO, worst non-starter frame in the game, unless they buff WoF and increase no. of targets it hits.