Talk:Orthos/@comment-184.23.128.216-20130608225613/@comment-70.118.60.93-20130609015356

Orthos, for now.

The charge speed is incredibly fast for its charge damage at 200, giving it the best DPS for any charge-attack melee weapon in game, even better than Gram's(Which is saying a lot).And while still mantaining a huge AOE like Scindo as well as stagger resistance when charging. Scindo only has a slightly larger AOE(Almost an unoticable difference) simply because Orthos's charge attack is very circular(It can even hit a small distance behind you) although that can be an advantage. Although it does lack in its jump attack at first, as the ground slam has a huge AOE but deals poor damage and only rarely staggers enemies, however I found that using the "staggering force" mod in conjuction with "north wind" makes it stagger enemies on its jump attack a lot more often while slowing them down with the elemental ice effect, giving great crowd control. Im also noticing a high crit chance for its charge attack, as it's the first weapon I have ever gotten a red crit on during one of its charge attacks(Going to experiment with this later).

The Hate is a tad slower with a bit more damage, but through testing I found that the Orthos maintains a significantly higher DPS with its fast speed and only slightly lower attack damage, not to mention it has a huge range and swings in wide arcs all across an area during normal attacks, the Hate is short ranged. I also found that certain normal attacks "double hit", as in one attack actually hits twice, this happens with the 2nd and 3rd animations of the combo. Orthos is also incredibly mobile like a longsword, it lets you walk and even sprint during all its attacks, including its charge attack which is unusual for any "heavy" melee weapon. This allows for some amazing crowd demolition since it combos with its DPS, mobility, and AOE.

Orthos is generally the best heavy melee weapon as of right now, other weapons have little no advantage over it and this is why it's probably going to get nerfed in the near future. So I suggest to wait before getting one.