Talk:Galatine Prime/@comment-24040624-20160801154953/@comment-24040624-20160804232825

@Maelstroa Fair enough! I will eat my words on several of my points. Although, I still stand by a few of them.

While I do agree I should not have included "longswords" in my arguement, I have never seen any greatsword with a blade double the width of its grip/handle.

http://www.thearma.org/essays/two-handers2.jpg  http://gesellschaft-lichtenawers.eu/tsc/images/stories/blog/DSC01672a.jpg

I would especially disagree on your point about using the flamberge/flammenschwert, claymore, and bidenhander/zweihander as evidence of greatswords having blades that are generally larger than their handles. I don't even think the claymore is referred to as a greatsword anyway, just a longsword. I could be wrong though.

http://ak1.ostkcdn.com/images/products/P1009680.jpg   http://i.imgur.com/On7skaH.jpg   http://www.rockislandauction.com/photos/58/p_standard/DJY4113-H-O1-O.jpg   https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Zweihaender_im_historischen_Museum_Basel.JPG

Also, I don't believe I ever said anything on the width of arming swords and other similiarly-sized blades. However, I did state "sword" generally later in my post, so that's my fault there.

On to armor. I never said anything about the frequency of armor encountered on a medieval battlefield(which can vary depending on the time period), but I have yet to see any kind of evidence that swords were created blunt as a means to deal with armor. That would sort of defeat the purpose of using a blade which, in definition, refers to "the flat cutting edge of a knife, saw, or other tool or weapon." https://www.google.com/#q=blade+definition  If there were blunt swords that existed in history as you say, however, then I can see why they didn't become very popular. At that point, I think it'd be best to just use a mace or hammer.

I am aware Estocs are a thing, but I never argued a point for or against swords specifically designed to pierce armor. In the case of fighting armor with a longsword/greatsword, generally the best and probably most widely-used tactics would be to half-sword for stabbing gaps in armor and/or use the murderstroke. Otherwise, hitting parts of armor with a blade would simply glance off. That's what armor is generally supposed to do from my knowledge.

Aside from all that, I will frankly apologize for the aggressive nature of the rant I had. I was initially under the impression you were comparing anime-worthy swords to historical representations, especially in the case of swords being as wide or wider than their hilts, hilts referring to the crossguard, grip, and ''pommel. ''I should not have jumped the gun on that.

As far as the Galatine Prime is concerned, I personally think it should stay the way it is in terms of the blade. It is a greatsword after all, and I think the width it's currently at is just fine in my opinion. The guard quillons could use some work though. I'd much perfer a more crossguard-esque design to go along with shorter versions of the quillons already present on the normal Galatine.