Talk:Oberon/@comment-183.6.109.174-20180412100444/@comment-26203093-20180515120615

part of the issue is that they insist on armour buffs not scaling multiplicatively with steel fiber. On a lot of frames you have to choose between health or armour, and whether to get the rest of the durability from arcanes or abilities. Why the hell would you get steel fiber, when you can get arcanes, and power strength to increase survivability and damage? And why is vigor still the way it is? There's no frame it's good on, because there's no frame that wants both. The only way it can become valuable is if the total is increased by 50%.

Now, if reckoning also did % of missing health in damage or made the orbs if they were radioactive instead of extra damage, you might have something to work with.