Talk:Ember (Warframe)/@comment-79.117.93.112-20141022143443/@comment-174.230.64.253-20150112030230

Each frame can be powerful. It's not the frame, it's the player that defines skill. I've seen rhino primes go down on Apollo mercury. I've seen valkyrs get demolished. It's because the players sucked. I've also seen Ember Primes dominate a t4 survival because the player knew what they were doing. The only reason the lone Tenno above thinks Ember sucks is because they only know one play style and they probably suck at using all the frames. Each is different. I can tell you Loki and Rhino won't play the same way. They have different skills and stats so Loki can't just run in blindly and wreck shit. That's rhino. Rhino can't do stealthy speed runs through rescue 2.0. That's Loki. Learn how to change your play style noob. Maybe you can reach MR 17 too like a real player.