Talk:Vauban/@comment-77.174.203.92-20170331030623/@comment-77.174.203.92-20170331163943

ermm thanks for the explination... its not like I dont know how the frame works, been using him for quite a while now...

But ever since I got the prime I just feel he needs work. In my current build everything is positive (because sadly its needed for him) 183 D, 130 E, 160 R and 130 S.

Spamming his first all over the place to get any use out of them is tedious and tiresome, if I had to do this less (meaning they stay longer) then maybe but now its...well I said it already.

Switching between his second is also tedious and most of hte bombs in the heat of battle seem to do next to nothing, like you said the tripwire is funny but completely useless (if enemies would stay on the ground for as long as that tether bursa can keep you down, sure but thats not the case) this game is not one on one combat, we are dealing with armies and these bombs just dont work for that at all. They are kinda like Nekros his 4th still kinda today but especially before his rework, just stuff to postpone but not to actually deal with anything.

Bastile was useful, but now that powerstrength is needed to actually pick up all the units you want its kinda ass. Also it does nto protect you from range so enemies outside will shoot you down quick and Vauban, even the prime, is relatively squishy with nothing to protect itself with.

His ultimate I used to love but even that feels a bit crap now that I cannot sacrifice strengh for bastile, the range is just not there, it does not grab enough units even with 160% range.

Sure I can package every warframes abilities like you just summed them up and make it seem possitive, but when you actually play with him.... idk man. I used to like him but now I find him just boring and weak, and I play all the frames mind you, im not comparing him to the likes of Valkyr or Ember or whatever frame the try hards use, I compare him to everything, how the play, what they can do, what they can take. I feel this guy just really needs work right now.