Talk:Ash (Warframe)/@comment-70.231.132.32-20130818182202/@comment-89.223.33.219-20130819002207

Well, Ash doesn't do a "tad" less team wise. He has no team contribution whatsoever. Personal damage shurikens, vanish, personal blink and... Killing Spree. If you want a set to run solo non-defense alerts or otherwise play a non-teamplay game - get Ash, he will be fun and rogueish.

Nova isn't that ... solo appealing, she requires team to benefit\contribute to her abilities. Null Star scales indefinitely, and with assistance of Acrid\damage stacking weapons it can blow some very high levels of enemies in one shot with quite a good radius and small energy cost. Wormhole is your way around annoying Void secret rooms to get Void Rare Mods, and the only way for people playing with you who aren't that parkour-oriented. Molecular Prime does less damage than Blade Storm per pop, but it's AoE explosion, has no limit of targets, big enough radius and doubles the damage these targets take. Absolute baby for infested defenses...

Personally I wouldn't even think to change Nova for Ash, I like Ashes style, but I am a teamplayer, or at least play with a friend, and I see that Ash is simply... utterly useless. Even Rhino, one-warframe army, packs team benefit in 3\4 abilities. So unless you really want to play this game alone, and a lot, consider Ash at disadvantage.

As for Vauban... he is arguably best defense-oriented warframe, with stunlocking Tesla, Bastille and even huge CC of Vortex. But to trade Nova for it... they are both best in their fields of expertise. Nova is the top damage among teamplayer DPS warframes... It's like trading one extreme for another. I'd just buy a warframe slot and keep the choice of fun for later. It's really better than potatoing your weapon\warframe, as it eventually can be obtained naturally.