Talk:Oberon (Warframe)/@comment-107.77.68.45-20140831151520/@comment-76.169.146.1-20140919231707

^ It's not the frame, it's the runner.

Every frame can handle any mission, but the real strength or weakness comes from the skill of the player. I've gone to T4 parties with frames that you didn't list, such as Oberon, Volt, and Saryn. Do you know what happened in the end? I killed/outdamaged almost every single frame you listed (there was one good Loki... well, he was actually more than just good.)

T4 survival, 50 minutes in, I hadn't gotten downed once (Volt). I didn't get the most kills only because I had the most revives. Rhinos and Novas were getting downed left and right, I couldn't get any kills in because we needed people on their feet, not on their faces. I had the second most in damage dealt, however.

Theoretically, Rhinos should be going down a lot fewer times than what I saw. In T4, pretty much everything deals tons of damage but even Iron Skin still works as a good mistake protector. You're not going to run into a pack of heavy gunners with it, and expect to survive without a scratch to your health, of course. But even in T4, I've seen many Rhinos just being stupid but activating in and thinking they're invincible.

As I said, it's the frame, not the runner...