Talk:Banshee (Warframe)/@comment-24563582-20140410063713/@comment-1973031-20140412142528

I'd be interested to see if someone can figure a nice way to make banshee survive better, QT+Rage is just cheap and Vit+Redir such a waste, it's like yeah you bring great things to the squad but do the benefits outweigh the number of times you'll be needing revives. It can end up causing more disaster.

This is all I can think of atm:

overextended significantly improves play,

melee best just used for movement/re-location but it does use sonar bonus

aiming for capped sonar damage unnecessary

Sonic Boom

can aim while casting, cast through barricades

Sonar

can provide huge assistance to other towers on interception/players covering other choke points, you can effectively be in multple places at once

explosion/flamethrowers go well with it, vortex too

detect which rooms are spawning in survivals

possibly doubles/triples saryn's venom dps on enemy clusters but haven't had the opportunity to test

around 12 seconds seems acceptable

Silence

casting mid jump freezes your position then on cast animation end you reach about triple jump height

similar thing happens when casting after horizontal wallrun jump

useless in ext/surv/def/cap, might be good in coming rework of deception/escort mission

couple with sonar to actually find targets and estimate max distance

Sound Quake

If you're about to be knocked down you can start an ult cast to still be useful or stun during revive

cast behind a wall for protection from distant enemy fire

sonar+quake waste of energy, sonar rarely targets head and if it requires both to kill things 50-75% will be left standing

sonar+quake for cc while squad takes advantage can be useful for focusing a dangerous/vip target in a swarm

Cons

requires protection from squad rather than provides, limits choice of other 3 squad slots

really need to avoid getting hit on this frame, there's no absorb/mprime slow/armor/invis to reduce damage

chorus helmet refuses to make color schemes look nice

Dos and Don'ts? don't revive in open, don't think sonic boom lasts a revive duration, don't ever get shot, don't get annoyed being knocked out more often than usual