Talk:Ember/@comment-93.223.58.226-20160516132446/@comment-160.3.118.60-20160519063007

"Next to useless" LOL

~95% of the time, I do well over 50% of group damage in T4 missions with Ember's WoF; with a stark majority of that resulting in me at least doubling the amount of kills of the player in second place.

A Lone Tenno is correct that Ember is a CC frame in sortie level and above, but I have absolutely no problem in lasting 25-30 waves in T4D. It's no marathon frame, but it's very VERY far from underpowered. If Ember seems "next to useless" to you, then you either can't mod; or don't know how to play the frame - and that's all there is to it.