Talk:Ash/@comment-2601:646:4100:450:69DB:12EA:D2DF:3701-20171027020956

Ash is a versatile, solid Warframe thats still generally my go-to for a lot of general activities. Though while I do think some people give it a really undeserved bad rap, I do feel a lot of its baseline end game viability hinges on Seeking Shuriken and to a lesser extent Fatal Teleport. Shuriken builds using this are quite strong (and fun to plan around), and it gives Ash a niche with Seeking Shuriken's debuff, speed, safety, and energy efficiency as well as 100% status proc on whatever is on your melee weapon at the time so anyone who wishes to play Ash imo should prioritize attaining this mod by whatever means necessary. People who want to press a button to wipe out entire defense areas probably won't be impressed, but A life steal Ash or covert lethality Ash with a toxin powered Seeking Shuriken and Fatal Teleport has a lot of options at its disposal for any situation imo, much of the time you won't even need Blade Storm.

I do think the frame could use a bit of a buff, or in Blade Storms' case just a flat out rework as imo Ash's problem is that without Seeking Shuriken and Fatal Teleport, there's no one thing Ash really excels at that another Warframe does better (which is why Seeking's utility imo is so essential for Ash to have.), however it is versatile and fun even if it all but requires those mods to keep up I think.