Talk:Mesa (Warframe)/@comment-172.251.80.199-20151015113715/@comment-172.251.80.199-20151017005417

I can't believe you guys actually responded proving my point. Thank you!

1. This dummy types:

"Obviously OP does not understand the term 'balance' and only knows about press 4 to win..."

Then dummy goes on to contradict himself by typing:

"Mesa always had falloff, people would never take her for the very long survivals anyways."

So if OLD MESA had falloff and was not used for very long on missions then how was she a press 4 to win frame?

The ability to kill what the game throws at you in the first 18 mins or waves is not "press 4 to win". Nearly all frames have an ability that will get them through the first 18 waves or mins alone.

All frames except "THE TRASHIEST FRAME IN THE GAME, NEW MESA!" xD

2. Then jack actually posted the same video link I was gonna use.

Jack posts:

"Here's your video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xowMF0KaHpg

The video link shows the OLD MESA soloing a "T4" survival.

The video cuts forward to about the 18 minute mark. This is because OLD MESA had damage falloff, and would not of likely been able to kill very much with her 4 alone moving forward.

Again, indicating the OLD MESA's 4 was not a win condition. She was actually BALANCED to be strong in the early part of a mission but weak later.

But that is all behind us now, because all the dummies and jacks who didn't understand OLD MESA was actually created and BALANCED to help ease farming woes bitched, and complained, and cried until DE had no other choice but to nuke the hell out of her.

So, DE took a frame designed to kill level 0-30 minions and replaced her with "THE TRASHIEST FRAME IN THE GAME, NEW MESA!" just so that they wouldn't have to listen to you idgets bitch anymore, lol.

In short, dummy and jack's comments have simply proved that OLD MESA was designed and balanced to be a low level killer and was unnecessarily nerfed.

So, thank you for that.

On a sadder note, not a single one of you posted a vid link to you soloing with "THE TRASHIEST FRAME IN THE GAME, NEW MESA!" also proving she is no longer a viable option and has in all likeliness been nerfed into EXTINCTION.

In closing, Smooches fanboys and Enjoy! :*