Talk:Pilfering Swarm/@comment-186.203.196.128-20151218154600/@comment-24.159.54.201-20160104062412

Hydroid's CC is utter SHIT! his abilities rarely hit enemies, even when you cast directly on them, which is bullshit. The only time his ulti comes into "Decent" play (and i use that term very stressingly) is when it is in a contained area and even then you would still be far better off with a Nekros, Vauban, Loki, Nyx for CC. Hydroid, of the CC frames, if you can call him that, is the bottom of the barrel. Fuck even our defensive frames like Frost, Limbo and Atlas are better than he is at CC. >.<

Stop trying to salvage him, at least not until they end up reworking him because this frame is trash. He is more fun to spam shit with but it is near useless for any actual mission. Sure, Take him into Assassination but that is all and that is assuming  By removing the need for his STR/DUR build they have literally killed him. People are building range which lowers the odds of hitting targets and by not building STR they are dealing less dmg. His lovely tentacles may not have done great dmg but with a max str build it was decent enough.