Talk:Ivara/@comment-39360686-20191114181913/@comment-2600:6C5E:1D80:1501:D987:6E5F:FF1A:7A7D-20191204070042

Prime soon. Just like Hydroid (remember when Vay Hek on Earth required farming 3 types of beacons?), Equinox, and Ash before her the Prime will be easier to get (10% on an enhanced relic) than the base form is to farm.

If you'd like to cry about it, wait for the Harrow, Nidus, and Grendel Primes. Those three have grind to get parts that is, at best, a stretch. On a positive note, they're better than the complete BS of landing craft grind.

The Xiphos literally has a drop rate that justified going out, getting a job at minimum wage, working for a few days, quitting, and plowing the paycheck into platinum to buy. If you just try to grind for it free to play it's basically not possible to get without years or insane RNG. For a refresher, you need to get all 3 caches, and the component percentage drop rates is 0.5% for each of three bits. That's 5 in 1000 runs dropping the parts. For 1 in 1000 people to get all three parts wil require 460 runs. If each run takes 8 minutes, that's 61.333 hours to complete. You have a 0.1% chance to earn all three parts after a week and a half of a "standard" 40 hour work week. If you make 8 dollars an hour and take 40% out in taxes, your pay would be $294.40. This would allow you to buy two of the highest tier prime access packs (nearly 4 of the ones with only the content), 7980 platinum, and be able to purchase functionally everything that isn't tennogen. Remember, this is if you're the lucky 1 in 1000. If you are the 99/100 that will require 763 runs or 101.6 hours ($487.68 at the wages quoted).

If it isn't clear, I think DE is is being pretty crapy with the drop rates here to spur people to buy platinum. After watching the youtube creators fawning over DE removing the kubrow skin color slot machine, that was obviously gambling, I'm surprised that this isn't ever touched upon.

Bringing this back, Ivara Prime being farmed with relics isn't going to kill spy missions. The player base that can't do anything but defenses and exterminates is what is doing that. There's a reason most people do sortie spies alone... Moreover, there's literally a way to do each spy mission with a Rhino and not be detected. Ivara, Loki, and Limbo are a crutch to make them easy.