Talk:Loki/Prime/@comment-98.218.60.143-20160130061525/@comment-128.75.243.138-20160220022218

The problem with Loki as starter frame was not that it is "hard to master", but the absence of mods to make Loki effective. Even his abilities had to be leveled up first by feeding them mods, and other two warframes were way tougher from the very start. Invisibility is somewhat useful for new players, but you could stay invisible forever. Besides for the same mana Excalibur could kill a whole bunch of low level mobs. And why would anyone use Radial Disarm vs lvl 10 grineer when you can just crush them for the same mana with Mag ulti? It even had better range back then. My most used abilities were Invisibility and Switch Teleport which I used to revive my teammates who did all the job.

Yes Loki's kit was relevant against any level of monsters, but early on without any mods to make good use of invisibility to keep yourself alive, against low level mobs that can be killed with any damaging ability and doesn't hit hard, he was just useless. I started as Loki and back then I almost left the game, but my friends carried me through early days with Excal and Mag. Then I leveled up my invisibility, discovered Orthos, found Streamline and Continuity and my life became way easier.