Talk:Oberon/@comment-3964597-20160426064828/@comment-24820404-20160504135656

cc always had value if you were an endurance player. Like i said, less people did endurance runs because damn near the whole community was essentially still "draco" farming.. For high level defense (cuz if ur talking about closed and early open beta, there was no survival, nova, or nekros) against non infested,  loki was still top tier. his 1 and 3 have always been niche, but with the limited frame pool loki was still a primary frame in making groups make it far. People that did waves 60+ almost always had a combination of frost, loki, rhino,or nyx, and a bit later, banshee or saryn. Some liked ember for the damage mitigation on her 2. So for endurance players, radial disarm has always had a place. Melee 2.0 didnt increase the need for cc, because all it did was make it mildly viable, though still sub optimal. Loki master race isnt a new thing. Its been around since i started, also patch 6.0, and with justified reason. I think ur perception of him just changed.