Talk:Redeemer/@comment-144.134.17.153-20161213101941/@comment-5241267-20170105195734

The nerfed stealth system pretty much nerfed the Redeemer more than any other weapon. Before the dreamcouple was "Lokdeemer" but now you have little to no stealth frames except for Warframes with sleep, so pretty much it is only Equinox (Night) and Ivara.