Talk:Gram/@comment-218.111.65.162-20130609062543/@comment-69.165.147.7-20130630162320

for clarification. orthos hits from roughly 30 left of center line to your entire right side and some backside (ie. clockwise if straight out crosshair is 12', it hits from 11' -> 7 o'clock.)

the animation is misleading b/c orthos is double sided, its the right hand tip that hits, not the left hand tip.

and both has momentum while swinging.

gram has jump attack kd, orthos has more range and fancy auto swings.

endgame, both does great dmg with correct mods. it would not be a waste to make both and try it out (for mastery ranks anyway)