Talk:Heliocor/@comment-104.249.225.42-20171119094753/@comment-33490977-20181227221110

Helios needs pretty much for new players to build. 10 Fieldron, 300 Oxium and a Forma for a utility ability with difficult usage? Pretty much, even tho Oxium is now fairly easy to farm. Also he's scanning pretty slowly, compared to the mass-scanning of a devastaging blow with the Heliocor against larger groups of enemies.

Also, I built my Helios with around mr16 and my Helios p around mr18. And now, for new players, they can't even get Helios p because it's vaulted. I filled my Codex with the Heliocor and a few thousand Codex/Synthesis Scanner. Helios was never the way for me to get scans, maybe on early mr against some bosses where you can't kill em with Heliocor or you're too busy surviving so you can't scan them yourself.