Talk:Ash (Warframe)/@comment-108.172.184.222-20130609034054/@comment-24.48.156.218-20130610023648

500 armor-ignoring no-aim needed damage per shuriken at 25 energy vs 100 energy for 1000 dmg per 1 enemy. So with the same energy you deal twice the damage as bladestorm which can be focused on one enemy, where as bladestorm is a crapshoot hoping to hit the right enemy....And you think he's not OP? I've played with a lot of Ash users and it's pathetic, they spam 1 and everything dies. Makes every frame useless, even specialist like ember vs infested. Add in everyone using energy siphon, it's game-breaking as hell. Either he needs less hp&armor, or slightly lower dmg for shuriken (even 250 armor ignore is still a lot with armor IGNORE, you people seem to forget that part)