Talk:Gram/@comment-24.160.88.166-20130729161615

Orthos is the king of charge damage, but that's about it. With maxed out Focus Energy and Reflex Coil, you'll be getting charge times around ~.1 second slower than Orthos with the same mods. I personally can't tell the difference.

So, Orthos is technically better if all you're doing is spamming charge attacks and never have any need to use the knockdown. But, if you're like me and can't live without the added utility of the knockdown, Gram/Scindo will be your go-to weapon.

I don't have a Fragor, but as far as I can see it shares Gram/Scindo's traits but trades 3x damage to infested for armor ignore on normal attacks and a bigger knockdown radius.

If I got something wrong please correct me. Particularly any differences between Scindo and Gram. I've used them both and they really seem like the same weapon.