Talk:Vauban/@comment-2A02:908:F19:87C0:AC2A:A353:B394:4F12-20190210110750/@comment-32972576-20190216154740

I think players are a bit obsessed with turrets for Vauban because in other games that's just what engineers are known for having, so why shouldn't Warframe follow suit?!

For me, the main issue with Minelayer is that only one mine is deployed per use for 50 Energy, and that it is a stationary object dependent upon accurate placement and/or the enemy triggering it, making it one of the less reliable skills to use unless throwing it into a middle of a group. The effects are fine however, particularly when used in combination.

A couple of ideas I had to improve it:

- Rather straightforwardly add an Augment called Minefield, which lays five mines per use. Spacing/number of mines layed could be dependent on an Ability parameter, perhaps Range.

- Turn the mines into Ratel-like minibots (those yellow robots from Corpus Sniper Crewmen spawn pads), which seek out targets and follow Vauban around otherwise. They attack with the effect that Vauban chooses: so Bouncing the target, laying a Trip Wire in front of the target, explode with the Shred and Concuss types. I'm not certain what you meant by "a latcher like behaviour", but my impression is that you were thinking to make them mobile somehow, yes?

Tesla seems fine on the whole to me, especially with the Augment and given that parameters scale. The only things I would change for it is to give it 100% status chance and remove the charge mechanics as I find them unnecessary and slow Vauban down too much. As you say, it really is his equivalent of a turret.

The ability I find the least useful is Vortex - it seems to have poor Range and Duration, especially compared to Bastille, and I find myself barely using it. A new ability might be nice, which fits in with the engineer theme. One idea I had was that Vauban could spawn a custom one of those annoying Bursa units from the Orb Vallis (its apparently called a Terra Embattor MOA) which would then lay mines of random types all over a given area.