Talk:Nova (Warframe)/@comment-24.34.46.64-20130727230039/@comment-24.34.46.64-20130729001627

Mag has other abilities that really make her shine and her ultimate really isn't that bad anymore. Saryn has a massive damage output for a frame that can be VERY tanky if modded correctly.

Just because Nova can kill a lot of 'grunt' units instantly doesn't make her op. By grunt units I mean Runners, Chargers, Corpus Crewmen, Grineer Lancers. At higher levels the ultimate can't exactly take down heavy units easily or as easily as some of the other warframe abilities.

With Ember I can trigger an ultimate and walk down a hall and get the same effect as I could with Nova. Oh yeah I can also trigger Overheat and be invincible while I do it. Or just stand infront of a boss like Hek and laugh as he can't do anything to me.

I can solo any boss I want EASILY with Banshee.

Nyx, her ultimate scales with enemy level because its the enemy doing damage to other enemy. So its going to be effective no matter what level mission you do.

The list goes on. Learn to use your Warframe for what it's specialized in.