Talk:Mire/@comment-1522903-20141215232044/@comment-76.2.0.177-20150512010736

I started when open beta did... Along with the Burston, the Mire was the first weapon I really built. (I think Sicarus was the first) so I have allot of experience with it, and have had allot of people bitching at me for using it.As near as I can tell, while the mire then was listed as "bacon sword" on the wiki almost immediately... I never saw anyone refer to it as that. Heck, I remember people calling it all sorts of nicknames from 'rotten sword' to 'worst-weapon-in-the-game-sword'. I just remember people wondering why the Wiki said it was called the bacon sword.

Just a note because of earlier things about pre-2.0 Mire:

The mire used to do incredibly bad toxin damage. It was almost famously a bad weapon since it was launched and only became decent in damage 2.0. Its on-hit toxin damage did not increase with mods and was if I remember right, 13? It wasn't enough to be notable. Even if toxin was at the time true-damage. This combined with being unremarkable in every other way. .With so-so damage, decent attack speed, Terrible charge attack, while true damage on jump attacks--the damage itself was very low, max damage mod would make the base something like 240 for whatever reason and elemental mods didn't work right with the ground and slam attacks. Moreover, it had a horrible damage type. (what were they called, blade?) It had low damage versus anything that wasn't a runner or charger or grinneer nub. It also had difficulty damaging Corpus or crawlers do to something that i shall now address:

The only remarkable thing it had is for about two months after open beta launched, it had the inexplicable reason to score headshots. Its hitbox was broken so it actually attacked above your tenno, and most hits would collide with Grineer and Corpus heads--making it somewhat useful if you covered it in pierce damage mods so you can actually hurt Corpus, as they were immune to non-pierce damage. This had disadvantages. You actually could not break boxes with this weapon, as its ground slam attacks were in the air above the box--and its basic attacks were well above the box. Even the zoren-coptering would often miss short enemies/boxes, and it had a terrible time dealing with crawlers because of this.

That was also the only other good thing about the mire. Its Zoren Coptering was broken compared to other one-hand swords, and it was second only to the Zoren itself for the maneuver.

Basically, it was a terrible sword. These days its actually decent, and a bit underrated. My Mire does well, but that may just be because its been formaed and stuff. I always loved it so I always use it.