Talk:Ember (Warframe)/@comment-96.32.76.220-20141015214055/@comment-81.56.79.150-20141016235604

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In survival at 40mn pleople should stacking mob spawn faster and faster. Beeing packed smoothen the spawns and allow for skill comboes. It's how you go far in survival. Ember isn't horrible at this stage because accel + fire damage weapon= good dps. Packed in a loki disarm + vauban combo you can use Ignis and deal tremendous dps that will scale further.

To me Vigor and Redirection are bad, Rush and Quick Rest are very tricky, it's just 2 cards for running that have poor impact in survival where you should control mob flow. Even redirection r10 + vigor won't not save you even against minor aggro at a point. On this frame it's tricky because low armor, but I believe quick thinking build is a better bet.

Drg Nikana is greatly overrated. It makes you too slow for what it effectively does. At a point eximus auras hurt that much... Better melees wpns are ones with fast spin attack(for mobility), for pure dmg melees you have dakra prime stanced(dervish) / galatine(spinlol stance but shitty spin attack for mobility)/S&A(fire damage for accel and smooth burn application). You won't get far against very high lvl enemies without the stance on so in doubt better picking something that gives you some mobility.