Talk:Orthos/@comment-64.30.100.153-20130609074123/@comment-9446233-20130609081022

Orthos pulls ahead because the charge speed is 1.633s vs Gram's 1.8s. It is fairly minor though, so if you like the Gram alot, I would stick with the Gram.

Gram has a much better jump attack (knock down & more damage(, but Orthos has better normal attacks (faster & more damage) and is a bit more stylish (IMO).

I've had Orthos hit 4 targets with a charge attack, where as I have only had Gram hit up to 3.

I love Orthos and Gram, but Orthos is my new favourite because of the style aspect.