Talk:Limbo (Warframe)/@comment-101.98.211.152-20150421115612/@comment-98.89.10.191-20150426182117

Limbo = best Rescue frame in the game, hands down. Banishing rescue target FTW.

Oh and in case anyone didn't know, the "fix" that disabled Limbo hacking terminals while in the rift? it also prevents Wardens from activating the alarms in prison areas. Still better to sneak kill them, but when that fails, banish the wardens and take your sweet time getting to the rescue target.

As for others, "best" is subjective. Other frames can kill much faster in Survival, but once you get past 20m it's more important to stay alive than kill quickly. Live on life support dropped from enemies until then, then burn capsules after that, which Limbo can (still) activate inside rift. Of course, if you can kill quickly ENOUGH you may still be better enough without Limbo, but if not, Limbo is the only way to survive past a certain point. Even Loki's Invisibility has a ceiling beyond which it won't save him.

Exterminate is simply not Limbo's deal, but he has uses here too. In T4, Limbo can solo with craptastic weapons by banishing single targets one at a time in relative safety. It's a good way to rank a rank 10 weapon all the way to rank 25-30 in a single mission. That doesn't make him "best" but it does work in a situation where other frames would struggle.

Excavation is like Defense. Anyone who plays the two very differently is playing one or the other wrong. Limbo gets the point here because he's simply a MUCH faster moving frame, so he can farm through the extractors MUCH faster than Frost, who is painfully slow, even with a Rush mod.

As to your other points, coptering to the evac point in Rescue works...until the game spawns 10+ Detron Crewmen that will insta-kill the hostage. Or until he dies from bleed procs in any Grineer rescue ever. No amount of uber-coptering will outrun those DoTs. Ember sucks for anything except Infested, and if you're bringing Limbo against Infested, the problem isn't Limbo, it's the user. Ash is also useless for Rescue or anything else requiring "true stealth" because the stun he procs when he uses Smoke Screen blows stealth as soon as the stun wears off - he's only good for "combat stealth" i.e. stealth for the sake of avoiding bullets and NOT actually remaining undetected. If you're bringing Ash to a Rescue or Spy mission, you might as well bring Valkyr. Same amount of "true stealth" on Valkyr as Ash, really.

And I wouldn't bring both a Loki and a Nyx to an Excavation. Irradiating Disarm removes the need for Chaos and is actually more useful because you can recast it whenever you want, i.e. not dependant on duration. Alternatively, Nyx pairs better with Limbo because enemies keep their guns - and thus keep attacking from outside Cataclysm's range. Radial Disarm pairs horribly with Cataclysm because it turns every enemy into a melee-only threat to the pod/excatator/whatever.