Talk:Hydroid (Warframe)/@comment-95.55.73.241-20140411170056/@comment-93.100.52.231-20140412025512

Something is more useless than Ash? Or Oberon? Or Valkyr? Or Zephyr? If so, then DE indeed has made a habit of making some deep shit.

Ash - universally inferior to Loki, except for swag. Although even that is debatable.

Oberon - jack of all trade mix that doesn't really shiny anywhere beside shitting on the ground and emulating Mag's ultimate.

Valkyr - invulnerable one-button ultimate with terrible stat synergy. Basically, a very fucked up Trinity with spider sense...

Zephyr - swag level over 9000. Otherwise arguably the most annoying ultimate, with rest of the skills being rather... pointless. Even onebutton Frost can just do better.

While a good Valkyr and Zephyr can still be redeemed by a GOOD player with proper loadout...(Like Valkyr with properly pimped melee or Shield-CC or at least constant uptime of her buff for the group; Zephyr who spawns the ultimate only when needed and uses the right weapons to boost it). Oberon and Ash just have no place in any team that runs dedicated missions(Ash can only be used for stealth swag, but any team will pick Loki's disarm hands down. Oberon's healing won't match even Nekros' Desecrate, and once his ultimate stops oneshotting things at close range, it's useless).

So yes, once again to all the fanboys: "Some warframes are better than the others. While each has it's own purpose, some Warframes just get the job done, while others swag".

Getting Davy Jones in 3 days, I seriously hope that there is something to it. So far I've only seen strange tentacles and lots of piss on the ground. At least this piss has decent range(unless it was already Stretched when I saw it), so technically it can be used as CC for infested. Then again, it takes enemies down, and if they can't be attacked like in Vauban's Vortex... then gg bye.

Tentacles and Tempest Barrage look like more or less interesting skills. A mass-Tesla and knockbacking barrage. But it's nothing significant. Like, if you take a Vauban/Frost-Nova-Rhino/Trinity-Nekros(universal build)/Nyx as a baseline for dedicated runs(up to and over level 100) - Fishface here doesn't stand a chance.