Talk:Mag/@comment-86.31.150.131-20180210101356/@comment-2A02:8071:8288:D000:3841:695F:EE80:B244-20180215020842

Oh lard. I love Mag and I can really don't see what your point is. You just talked about other frames while you wanted to talk about Mag. You didn't put anything into comparison. First let me tell you something about the frames in general: there are several different kinds of mission types and many frames are mostly useful when used for just a few kinds of missions. So is Mag. Also some people feel different ways to play the game entertaining, not just your ways.

Now let us talk about why i like Mag that much. It's simple to be honest. She rocks in Corpus missions and I love her skill set. I even sometimes use the Augment Mod for her first ability if I know that we will camp somewhere to go for longer runs or something. Most of the time I use her second ability, what is great cc and damage against stronger eximus units or doors, and her third ability to simply wipe out wide areas at lower levels or at least dealing significant damage to all enemies in the area. Her 4th ability, to be fair, never was something I liked much, because it felt pretty weak on higher levels as the enemies armor/hp/shield all scale, while your damage remains the same. Also it didn't proc any element what could have easily made it stronger. But that did change with the small rework. With her new Augment on 3 and the overshields on the 4th ability she is also able to perform awesome in any grineer mission with ease. Together with her 4th Augment you will be able to shred all the armor with just two casts on a more range focused build while still being able to keep your overshields! Plus all enemies need to go melee now with her 3rd Augment.

She will get more energy expensive, but they already buffed her energy pool what really is great and was one of the biggest "issues" when playing her before.

So what kind of missions should you play with her? Her best would be Defense, Mobile Defense and Interception. Yes there are frames that might do better than her in some scenarios. But what does that make her? Weak? Bad? Useless? No, damn. She is still strong and useful, with her new kit maybe even stronger than before. Even on other mission types. Great AoE cc never is useless in this game, not even on Spy or Rescue (even tho i would really recommend other frames than Mag for that).

If you want to play the game with only one frame or the ""very best"", then do so. Have fun your way, but don't tell others this is the only truth and best thing to do. You also mentioned Volt and Excalibur. The only reason I would tell someone new to rather pick these is 1. they feel stronger at the beginning and 2. they might be more difficult to get without using plat if you want to get them later ( Lech Kril(for Excalibur) is just annoying and difficult for new players and not every new player gets into a dojo or clan to get Volt, while Mag is from The Seargant, the more or less easiest "boss" in the game). But nothing more. I didn't try Volt much since the little rework but it doesn't feel as powerful as he was with his cc. His kit still is very fun and even useful in some situations, but it's nowhere that superior to Mag that you always should use him above her. Excalibur on the other side just lacks many things after you completed the star chart. And even so, without his 4th Augment he really has problems dealing the right damage and sustain long enough to feel good, especially against higher armored or strong corpus units. At least to me it isn't fun with most weapons to always going for finisher attacks. His blind may have an awesome range but it can't go through obstacles what makes it less effective at many points. Also finisher lock your position, even tho you are invulnerable while doing them.