Talk:Ash/@comment-90.190.224.109-20161108150346/@comment-90.190.224.109-20161108213106

"ash and ash prime have been well over used as a frame for taking out groups awhile"

That means people actually like playing Ash. You could say that people find Ash FUN to play, why else would they play Ash if it wasn't fun? They arent masochistic.

If you don't like to play Ash, or don't find the playstyle fun or if you find that Ash players "kill steal" (this stupid adolescent term which has no place in any game) then that is your personal problem.

Maybe this game would actually be good if the developers focused their efforts on useless frames like Oberon instead of crippling fun to play frames like Ash (previously Excalibur, Trinity and others).