Talk:Excalibur/@comment-75.190.40.11-20160529041412/@comment-27279105-20160531122008

i like oberon (limbo not so much, sorry but i just don't like his design and his ability set), he looks nice and has some unique skills and i agree that you can do great with him even in sorties.

but you can do great there with any frame without even using abilites if your weapons and skill can make up for it, so it's no reason to declare him great.

you have to admit that his abilities have less oomph than comparable abilities. for example Reckoning has smaller range than other aoe ults. Hallowed Ground also has kinda low range and the armor benefit is very small imo (knockdown and proc immunity is great tho). And Renewal has slow traveling time and isn't always easy to mod together with his other skills.

some small tweaks could make him a high tier frame though.