Talk:Mesa/@comment-72.21.196.67-20181206091443/@comment-4081131-20181207201304

She's good, yes, but she's hardly the only (or even best) nuke frame, and she's actually pretty terrible for a lot of bosses unless you need someone to kill adds while everyone else kills the actual boss.

When it comes to high level end game stuff like arbitrations or ESO, you're likely to get more mileage out of a Volt, Saryn, or Equinox as they can nuke large numbers of enemies all at once (or lock them down) as opposed to Mesa's one-at-a-time approach.

For many bosses, you'd be better off with Ivara, who can just obliterate with a single dashwired shot. Especially against bosses where you have to target a specific spot. Mesa's useless against Eidolons, for instance.

Don't get me wrong, she's a great frame, and I use her quite a bit in plenty of situations. I think I've got 3 or 4 forma in both her and her Regulators. But she's not quite the all around godframe you're making her out to be. Single target DPS that doesn't require a specific hit location? Oh yeah, she'll tear that up. But when it comes to massive hordes, I've personally switched to Equinox.