Talk:Saryn/@comment-108.208.136.96-20160508160459/@comment-24820404-20160517171728

You just have to change your outlook man. Yeah saryn 1.0 could use all of her moves in unison, but they all sucked individually in damage 2.0 except miasma, which was only good up until around level 90. Venom's damage didnt scale and in damage 2.0 didnt stack anymore, and its viral procs were rare, molt had no range when it exploded, contagion was treated like a damage mod, whereas toxic lash buffs damage after all of your mods, and exponentially increases the damage of your spores. Literally the ONLY downside to new saryn is that her miasma explodes her molt.

Regardless of what mods it takes, her design is just better. She's one of the only frames, if not THE only frame who's weapons make her moves scale into endgame and vice versa, whereas most other frames are one or the other. Either they have direct damage buffs for weapons (rhino, banshee, nova), or their weapons directly buff the damage of their moves (ash, atlas, valkyr, excal)  Her toxic lash does the former and her spores does the latter. Its also the only move in the game who's damage exponentionally grows on itself.

So what if miasma "isnt as good". I'd much rather be able to do 1 million damage ticks to level 500 enemies than be able to clear out draco with 1 button. Because eventually that damage falls off. I have yet to see spores fall off.