Talk:Orokin Derelict/@comment-94.139.0.105-20190307081244/@comment-62.107.181.195-20190519064311

"I understand that people can run setups with those mods, but it's nothing I would do"

As long as you do have that understanding dude, everything you decide to do is perfectly fine :)

I can definitely understand simply not wanting to do vault runs.. I normally take the shield, health and damage keys on Limbo (the slow key is awful), do exterminate and stasis + cataclysm whenever a group of enemies are gathered on me to complete mission while I look for the vault, never leaving rift except to open vault door or briefly as my cataclysm expires or I leave it, just before I dash back into rift. It's easy, but it's tedious, runs can take 5-7 minutes and then there's the 25% chance it's the wrong door, and the increasing chance of getting duplicates (which you can sell for plat, admittedly).

Capture is better if you're in a group, but solo it's iffy as the target is not affected by stasis.

Anyways man, my advice to you is keep an open mind. If you understand that there are situations where these mods are super helpful, maybe you won't miss it if you get into a situation like that at some point.

Personally I'm doing vault runs for Overextended for my group Hydroid build. I figure my job is to keep up tentacles and scoop enemies into them, making them drop more loot. I'll probably have a Nekros, some sort of buff or heal or objective protection, and a nuker who will do way more damage than I would even if I built for it. So I need range, duration and maybe efficiency, not strength.

These sorts of groups get made in recruitment chat all the time. It's not hard to find one with randoms. That's how I get into them at least ;)