Talk:Oberon (Warframe)/@comment-95.55.95.12-20140417213845/@comment-93.100.52.231-20140419192754

What the fuck are you talking about... The Absolute Nekros(Terrify-Shadows CC with Desecrate), Goddess Trinity(invulnerability with Link damage), Impenetrable Vauban(Batille and Vortex for complete CC), Nova the Destroyer(Antimatter Drop and Molecular Prime for almost any high level), Loki Masterrace(speed, melee stealth, disarm, distracting with clones), Rhino Total Commander(tank, buffer and wide CC), Mag the Vacuum(room-wide placement, EMP, melee domination), Inconspicuous Nyx(making everything kill itself by all means possible), Unstoppable Frost(CC and protection)... Now THESE are the warframes that can be played WITH skill. Even others, who I didn't list - can contribute, but do not deserve attention.

What does your hooved fucker have?

From what I can perceive by reading Wiki(since I level him just by Reckoning, to throw away), is that he is a terrible copycap of Nyx. Both Smite and Hallowed Ground can be used to attempt to Radiate enemies and cause them to attack themselves. So it's either laying a carpet or aiming single Smites, both functions rather flimsy and even less reliable than countless other CCs. Renewal? Worse than Blessing, does nothing more than a steady use of Desecrate. If people need health - they bring kits. And if people die out - they either take Trinity or call it a day. Healing a whooping 200+ every few seconds won't save you past 100, and will overheal like hell for anything below. His Ultimate? Short ranged spammer that only has Radiation as it's interesting part. So perhaps if you put some Overextended or at least Stretch - you could once again, "simulate" Chaos. But that's about it - it quickly ends, merely knocks down. Sure, perhaps it's better than Mag's Crush in the long run, but it doesn't stack with other abilities. If you build an Overextended-Stretch-Fleeting+Streamline Oberon for merely stunning and attempting to irradiate enemies - you won't do better than Rhino, who can as well buff and tank. You won't do better than Nova, who slows and doubles the damage. Or than Frost, who also packs a Globe. And if you do it - then all of your skills become useless. Why use Smite or Hallowed, if you already cover 35 yards with Radiation with more damage and CC than either of them? Oberon basically becomes the second Excalibur... Well, a bit better.

Is that what you call skill? You all spill shit about how you can play him - well, I've laid it out for you. Prove me wrong, tell me how it can be better. Because otherwise you are blind fanboys who aggro at any hater, who attempts to state the rude truth.

Honestly, I also find Ash fun to play. And he even has his niche up to level ~50. But that still makes him shit in team, compared to Loki. And so does you Oberon - it can be "used", but it has NOTHING for a dedicated team. That is why it is so panned. Accept it.