Talk:Saryn (Warframe)/@comment-49.144.135.136-20151105112353/@comment-75.64.95.241-20151105203511

" faster and better casting animation, power effiency build and miasma actually deal x3 dmg if enemies are affected by both viral and toxin (well you need to wait untill all tick is done , something around 3 secs) in case you have power range mod spore are spread like 23+ meters away it's larger than miasma's aoe , not counting that new toxic lash skyrocket melee DPS"

Ember's WoF had a faster animation casting speed. Ember is still shit for end game.

Ember had the Power Duration Toggled Abilities buff, but Ember is still shit. Ember has 400%+ Damage Multiplier with ONE ability, not two. Ember's build easily gets to around 25m range. Not to mention Heat weapons skyrocket Ember's melee DPS.

Overall, for end-game, Ember is still astronimically better than Saryn at this point. The issue is, level 40 enemies aren't end-game, and Ember is absolute trash by 60. So, it doesn't even matter one way or the other.