Talk:Ivara/@comment-46.139.3.26-20180523102436/@comment-174.45.82.0-20180603055629

This is entirely apples and oranges. Loki is more of an aggressive and self-centered frame, while Ivara is way more defensive and team-based.Her invisibility is geared more towards staying in one relative area (arrows are obviously stationary, because you can't pin them onto yourself, and prowl is a relatively slow ability, even with you rolling around and using zipline everywhere.) Loki can get an altitude advantage by using his extended wall-cling, but Ivara can get a much more reliable and versatile altitude advantage that everyone in the party can use with her ziplines. Loki has an easier invisibility--but Ivara can make allies invisible for 20-somethin' seconds as well, and you can pin your invisibility arrows to allies and enemies.Loki's CC affects more targets at once and disarms them, but Ivara stops them from doing anything for 20-ish seconds and opens all of them up to finisher damage from allies and herself. And unlike Loki, she also has a strong damage option that goes along well with the rest of her kit: artemis bow is pretty good.There are a couple of other good utilities, like enemy detection out to 20 meters, and the looting from prowl can never hurt.