Talk:Loki (Warframe)/@comment-67.160.84.202-20130422051651/@comment-173.73.79.83-20130423025041

^ Yep

Loki > Ash

I used to like Ash when you could stack power duration to make his smoke bomb last longer, but it's not a 2 second difference. Ash's max rank Smokebomb lasts 6 secs, Loki's max rank invis lasts 10 seconds. The difference escalates to a 5.2 second difference when max continuity is added. Which is actually really long in a game like this. I only find Ash good for pressing 4 to win and even though Ash has better innate survivability, it's very easy to be invinicble with Loki when played correctly so the extra shields/health/armor that ash has is unnecessary. I don't even bother with putting on vitality with Loki.