Talk:Torid/@comment-96.49.86.136-20140812055617/@comment-96.49.86.136-20140815200901

have you even used the gun extensively before the changes? You actually lose out on damage with these mainly because of the ammo nerfs. Sure, you get a slight damage boost per grenade, but you don't only fire one shot with Torid. That's not how it works. You should be stacking them to even be on par with other guns. Now with the ammo nerf, you'd have to manage your shots wisely, so obviously a lot less stacking.

As for ammo mutations and ammo drum? Are you forgetting those are MODS? You'll have to make room for them and you're gonna lose out on a lot of damage compared to before. And mutation is pretty much mandatory now. Right now for one of my build, I'm sitting at 8k damage compared to 10k before the the changes because I had to sacrifice some mod slots. That's less damage AND less shots.

Now let's talk about the buffs:10%  status -> 15% status, 5% critical -> 10% critical, 1.5x crit dmg -> 2x, AOE increase

These buffs don't make up for that major nerf. Also, it was already a great status gun before so not really much change there.