Talk:Ember (Warframe)/@comment-24324247-20140222154314

Accelerant gives ~500% fire dmg but for most weapons we cant get a PURE fire output. Lets take a look at Soma:

For 2* 90%elements + hammershot build:

physical 428 + corrosive 772 PER SHOT = 1200

For wildfire + hellfire + hammershot  build(to make better use of Ember's ability):

physical 428 + fire 643 PER SHOT = 1071

After using a r7 blind rage + focus : 428+643*2.5*2.02 = 3675 ~= 3 times of 1200.

I know not many people use hammer shot but anyway Ember just gives about 3 times dmg output with ~25 energy cost for non-Ignis weapons

Plus, you cant use the best element build for each faction right? Even in infested missions, gas is better than heat. So you lose some element bonus too.

Nova with maxed efficiency already gives 2 times DPS for ALL weapons/ ALL builds with same cost of 25 energy and better range and longer duration. (and some blast dmg, though helpless in high level)

The other 3 abilities of Ember are purely damage dealers without well scaling with level, so she is no longer offensive when facing high health / armor enemies. DE tried to make her offensive, but ironically she can just kill some light, low-mid level enemies now.

Are Ember and Frost just useless in high level after the nerf? Is there anyway to build she for long DEF/SUR missions?