Talk:Nyx/@comment-50.38.59.175-20190816154805/@comment-92.101.61.189-20190820155019

Most other Warframes are just as fine running a generalist build. At least my generalist Saryn and Mesa builds can both clear out good chunks of the map in Sortie-3 while still being survivable and efficient enough to be comfortable. People just min/max for min/max sake too much.

And the inverse of your statement is true. Nyx is impossible to build into something truly powerful, no matter how much you specialize. Stats matter too little, and there are way too many hard caps.

Mind Control? Can't do anything to make AI less braindead or at least speed it up. Bolts? You just max them out easily and then there is nothing you can do. Chaos? Enemies generally spawn closer than your max range, and you have to recast it to keep new enemies chaos'ed - so no practical reason to be maxing any stat.

Absorb? Damage barely scales, and the pretty much unavoidable augment cuts so hard into range that you can at best hope to regain standard-sized bubble. The critical issue of extremely slow movement can't be addressed via stats. Mesa's Waltz allows rolling, Ivara's Infiltrate speed scales off STR - but for some reason, Nyx is stuck moving at an ice glacier pace.

So, yeah, you end up running a generic build, using pretty bland, but okay-ish, Chaos and Bolts. Nothing really shines and Nyx key thematic ability keeps collecting dust as a glorified single-target CC. She isn't worthless, but for a frame that went through a rework, Nyx is still pretty sad.