Talk:Ember/@comment-30023704-20171016144921

After playing her, and tinkering with several builds on "Warframe Builder", i can say this frame is just a compromise. Or even worse, a "good for nothing".

- Squishy beyond reason, Prime version is ever so slightly better at this.

- Pathetic passive ability

- Amazing kit on paper, too bad in order to work you need to build her with range, efficiency, str and duration. Yep, you need to make everything better because everything as it is, it's very bad. Maybe if i could build her with 15 mods....

Don't pay too much attention to the people saying she's a powerhouse, because this frame can only be either a powerhouse for a dozen of seconds, or lackluster for the entire time, either way isn't nearly good enough. "Accelerant + WoF does >10k dmg"; yhea sure too bad it either cost like crazy, or it has no range, or Accelerant has no duration at all boosting WoF for about 15s. Or a mix of things. Check the "Maximization" window here on her abilities, or try for yourself some build on the builder, you will quickly realize what i'm talking about, and how much of a compromise she is.

Bottom line is, there are so many frames that effortlessly do what Ember does but better

Best part of the frame: SHE'S SO T H I C C. TOP TIER T H I C C