Talk:The Jordas Verdict/@comment-31198794-20170131182904/@comment-195.211.206.241-20170220224129

Idk who you're talking to but as someone who completed both Lor and LoR NM more than 300 times and JV less than 50 times I'd say JV is f-ing awful, it's not just 'bad'. The simple fact that players had to wait 2 YEARS to be abe to collect items needed to complete the raid outside the raid says levels. Teh fact that it became playable only with Amesha whic is again, new. Without Amesha and now without bless stage 3 would've been a pain in the a** worse than anything that exists in the game. The fact that you need "schools" to teach you how this bs works while LoR you can do quite succesfuly after reading about it or watching a guies also speaks levels. You play games for FUN, not to make it your second freaking job you need to learn shtton about before you start doing it - and yes I don't care that "but omg it's raid it was meant to be "hard"". It should be doable with team of randoms. Currently LorNM is hardly doable due to the asswipes that think that is fine, that they know better than everyone and JV is only doable if you have 2+ people inside that know what they're doing and those 2 can carry everyone else.

It would've been 10 times not as bad af it wasn't for the tedious bs that is killing Jordas himself. It would've been better if the final boss was something like Lephantis that you actually had to kill not solve stupida** puzzles 3x times.

It's also one of the most bugged raids - to the point where new players can never truly learn how to complete it without skipping parts or glitching through it because there's always someone that finds a new way to destory nerves in one go, skip spore football in the beginning,ect.