Talk:Ember/@comment-46.151.139.105-20161221155707/@comment-24.231.123.93-20161225071427

20 damage (The average damage a high-level armored unit takes) + 250% is 70 damage. Her power kit is still absolute trash, like it has been since her release. Wait, it's -worse- since they made WoF only hit 1 target instead of 3, which is what made it useful.

The only way she's -any- use at high levels is flash accelerant and equipping herself with a super high damage weapon with fire damage like Hek with max multishot. She's still the worst frame against armored enemies and anything past level 15. Every other frame has super useful or super OP powers that are strong regardless of enemy levels, until you hit stuff like 100+

Plus, her deluxe skin is just a ripoff of Equinox. People who deny it are just DE fanboys.