Talk:Gram/@comment-78.141.114.96-20130531130701/@comment-9210022-20130601020719

I own both so i have to say both are great melee weapon.

Gram's simple and swift charge animation make it fast at dealing huge charge DPS. The good range easily hit 6+ enemies at one swing. Have decent stagger resistant while charging.

Hate's awesome yet complicated charge animation make it slower at charge DPS. The shorter range make it harder to hit more than 4 enemies. However, Hate's charge will hit downed enemy, which Gram can't.

When comparing normal attack, Hate definately have the upper hand; Equivalent speed, more damage & staggering against certain enemies.

Ultimately, both are valid choice. I chose Gram through.