Talk:Ember (Warframe)/@comment-203.87.162.6-20141006063957/@comment-206.116.10.158-20141006214618

Both frames require tons of forma and effort in order to perform at a decent level.

If you ONLY have your mind set between these two frames, I'd highly suggest Valkyr. Her killing potential is just as good as any other frame. Just use your rifle to kill things. -___- Most warframe's abillity damage doesn't scale anyways, so that point is moot.

- Her 4th ability is what makes her a great frame to use. Why? It will help you survive high level enemies, revive fallen teammates in clutch situations and is generally a great all-around ability.

- The downside is that it doesn't help your team that much and only truly benefits yourself. Valkyr has no CC and is generally a poor choice in defense missions.

Ember isn't that great of a frame at the moment. Yeah, it's fun to press buttons and watch everything burn and explode. However, her actual usefulness is limited. The only good ability in her arsenal is Accelerant. All her other abilities do decent damage, but won't put a dent in high level enemies. She also has no survivability and will be downed very (and I mean, VERY) easily in high level end game. She literally has no real value to the team.

Why use Ember when you can pick Nova who has the same role as Ember on a team? Nova presses 4 and immediately outclasses you in every single aspect.