Talk:Saryn/Prime/@comment-84.80.206.23-20160220142156/@comment-84.80.206.23-20160220175254

i'm far from unimaginative. in fact, i've tried just about any possible combination of both mods and abilities. hear me out.

very convenient. saryn procs viral throughout the map. too fucking bad she lacks the crowd control to actually make use of it.

her 2 is still at a limited range, dies too fast and does as good as no damage overal. placing it in the air will not grant it extra survivability, enemies will still shoot it nontheless.completely irrelevant unless you make spores explode on it when enemies are NEARBY(effectively costing 175 energy for less than mediocore results)

since saryn's best damage builds rely on duration, transient fortitude will be out of the question.

if you really want to spread her spores on a large scale i would have to use overextended, decreasing damage. effectively making her 4 even more useless.

yes i know her 4 deals extra damage for toxic/viral procs going on. however, this process takes far too fucking long to actually do and makes her abilities reliant to eachother. that's not synergizing. it's forcing you to use shitloads of energy for mediocore results. (if your enemies weren't already killed by team mates that is)

this only puts saryn in more danger, saryn's 3 is out of the question due to the risk/reward ratio. the extra 30% damage simply isn't worth it.

350x4=1400 (toxic+viral) do you see where i'm going? this shit effortlessly get's outdamaged to as much as a soma.

now let's use another frame as an example of how shit should work..

excalibur! a melee frame. since excalibur has to get to melee range he has means to protect himself. so there's good reasons to use his abilities. want to use his 1? sure thing, good mobility. oh and let's use radial blind for stuns. a whole group of enemies coming? i'll use my 4 to pierce them all. funny thing is.. excalibur outdamages saryn by a lot. reason being, he simply has to. because he puts himself to a lot of danger.

now let's take a look back at saryn agai, shall we? because she puts herself in a lot of danger too. these combo's take some time afterall

crowd control? nope

utility for safety? regenerative molt, which will take away some fire away from you for 1 or 2 seconds

reward for synergizing? 1500 damage per second at best (looks at about 90% of all primary weapons that do double the damage)

mobility? none