Talk:Nightwave/@comment-15883281-20190811212710/@comment-74.133.120.217-20190825015614

banking often is actually a good way to scale the enemies up faster. get a decent team with 2-3 collectors that know to turn it at 15 points every time. every time you kill an enemy 10 times it changes enemy, and every time another enemy spawns it gets a little tougher. getting more points for less kills is the opportune way to get this if it is troublesome.

ideally, get 1 mesa, 1 zone hold.. gara, limbo, vauban, etc. and 2 rhinos.. Not 2 tanks, 2 rhinos. Rhino has more EHP than any other frame in index because his ability doesn't rely on his hp at all, so even with 15 pts going to turn in with 12hp, he can have an ehp of 3k+  and if you go high efficiency high armor, it's a tough armor that can be refreshed even with the energy drain of 15 pts.

even if you die, the zone frame will keep them from turning in. the important thing is making sure no points stay loose near your turn in.. mesa/zone marks any that spawn near there, while at least 1 rhino stays near your turn in collecting them as fast as possible.

2 players can do it pretty easily with a mesa/rhino and when the npc's die just kill whatever picked up their points and let the rhino collect, but a bit of bad luck can cause it to turn bad.

the problem in index generally isn't so much hoarding points.. it's not turning in before timer, and collecting as a non-collecting frame, because you lose out on those bonus points, which is especially important for longer runs which this is trying to emulate.