Talk:Embolist/@comment-111.249.159.165-20131006100713/@comment-7645613-20131006124841

the ragdoll effect from pull or even crush does not last long enough, and due to pull not actually really "pulling" enemies to your position anymore, you are forced to run up to the enemies (who are scattered around and not in one place) and by then they are not ragdolled anymore. it works, don't get me wrong, but vauban's vortex lasts far longer and enemies stay in one spot during the duration.