Talk:Mag/@comment-86.31.150.131-20180210101356

it was a step in the right direction to give its 4 overshields, still feels like a poor mans volts 4 (with augment)., Mag still feels like a slow weak little crapper and if your new trust me Volt or Excalibur is the way to go.

DE described this as a "Fragile CC frame thats good in the right hands" like you have to have the right hands just to make it work well i have the right hands but it dont change the truth that its rubbish, its CC leaves targets constantly standing back up so if you like your fast snappy headshots your out of luck. if your looking for a good CC frame there is in no particular order;

Rhino: Superior CC hard to get headshots with but team damage buff makes up for it

Equinox: Night form 2; easy headshots & enables finishers and its 3 aura slows enemies with augment.

Volt: his 1 & 4 do what mags does except Volts leaves them open for easy headshots,

Harrows 1, cheap cheerful CC leaves them open for headshots that you get rewarded for.

Vauban: 3 disables a battlefield easy headshots (this is the true fragile legit cc frame)

Nyx: 3 good range good duration and will disconnect the protective link of Ancient Healers

Loki: 4 with augment is more or less like Nyx

Limbo: Vastly superior CC when it comes to protecting a staic target

Nidus: 2 is superior cc though it cant get headshots you wont care with a gun using punch through or using his 1.

Inaros: 1 does more or less the same thing as Night Equinox 2 while having the benefit of being about 10 or more times tougher than mag.

"Mags good in the right hands" is just somthing for DE to say to justify how failed this frame is. Any frame is good in the right hands thats because the right hands are good not the frame, seriously any player with the right hands can take any shit frame like Mag through any content even fighting eidolons but it dont change the facts.