Talk:Excalibur/Umbra/@comment-2600:1702:540:6740:1126:A8DA:A3BE:CEF7-20180629005835/@comment-180.191.142.101-20180630070059

Don't generalize. Not every founder is a whining sack-o-dung who only wanted to be one for self-fulfillment, +100% esteem and/or aesthetic purposes while degrading others. They made a gamble and it's thanks to them that we had Warframe for 5 years.

I see it like this. Excalibur Prime shows the beginning of Warframe. Umbra is the fruition of what it became now.