Talk:Trinity (Warframe)/@comment-109.184.56.98-20130817115629/@comment-97.83.143.130-20130821150334

Frost, Vauban, nova, Loki is a much better team.

A loki with his +15% range helm, max stretch, flow, & streamline his ult has 33 meter range which when standing in the middle of xini reaches the entire map. Forcing every single grineer and corpus into melee mode and they charge blindly for enemy players instead of the pod. Good players don't even need a frost with a loki built like that and 4 max energy syphons. +100 waves on outer terminus most teams are Loki, Vauban, nova, banshee. With nova sometimes being replaced for Nyx because Nyx mind control makes for a 10x better decoy than loki's does because loki's Decoy needs max redirection, vitality, & vigor to be any good since decoy copy's lokis shields & vitality.

The reason why lokis radial disarm is better is due to the fact that all the enemies group up and rush all at once straight into vauban bastille & or vortex grouping up into 1 big ball for nova ult. Banshee is REQUIRED in order to get past wave 50 when the enemies are level 700. Banshee sonar with focus is +650% damage and works with spells as well. Just like rhino roar works like a +50% Serration, hornet strike, Killing blow, Pressure point, & focus. That's why against infested the best team is: rhino, banshee, nova, & vauban is the strongest team in the game. Roar then molecular prime, then sonar for +900% sonar damage, then vortex to group them up. 1 Shots level 700+ enemies. Vortex with +80% damage and banshee 900% sonar is 18,000 damage from 1 spell. molecular prime with +80% damage is 1,440 + 900% is 14,400 from ONE explosion and that's not counting the fact that molecular prime increases all damage enemies take x2. So +900% damage, damage taken x2. +50% roar for weapons & spells, and vauban to perma CC and group up. Problem is sonar has to be cast AFTER molecular prime is cast. 28,800 per enemy exploding.