Talk:Vauban (Warframe)/@comment-186.244.72.127-20130822041358/@comment-89.223.33.219-20130827221648

Are you guys retarded? Seriously. Trinity is UNDERPOWERED?! A single Warframe that can give you unlimited health, mana, kill anything by reflecting it's OWN damage, and give 95% uptime of COMPLETELY ENDLESS team invulnerability? Frost, Vauban, Rhino - they PALE, they smoke and chill in the corner compared to Trinity. Sure, she doesn't have a cheesy Stomp, nor AoE disable, nor does she kill stuff like Nova. But in the hands of a good player, Trinity can make ANY game victory, even worst nightmare modes(especially if she stocks AoE heal medkits).

As far as Vauban goes, it's either you use AoE weapons yourself, or there is somebody on your team who does that. Or you play Xini 30+. For anything else he isn't necessary, including and especially - T3 Void Defense. Tesla is pretty much pointless, you may flash it all you like while running normal missions, making people say "How do you drop these grenades?" But in a real Defense, you keep uptime of Bastille(meaning ~50< mana) and use Vortex as much as possible to keep mobs and loot clear(an AoE and inferior version of Mag Pull).

Neither of the two frames is easy to play. Both are somewhere on the skill level of advanced frames, like Nova and Loki, who require personal control of your actions, rather than click this and that every now and then(like Ember, Rhino). So you either support the team by hard CC, or by providing them invulnerability.