Talk:Dread/@comment-98.160.192.185-20130602111805/@comment-4555176-20130602221849

You ARe aware that you should be comparing charge damage right? Dread is 150 and Paris is 100. second, theres no dmg reduction on a foot shot for Dread, same as there is non for Paris on Head. Granted paris AP dmg does 200% to head, but fire/ice are far less effective, and that scales with the level. If you want to post damage numbers do so after making sure you took everything into account, and adjusting vs enemy resistances unless your comparing only the raw dmg before resistances. If you plan on comparing Raw damage only please state so earlier, and if you use specific examples please look at the enemy vulnerability page.

Although one of the other topic posters above made a comparison using actual vulnerabilities, here are the ancient ones if anyone wants to make sure.

The only way your damage calcs apply if is your shooting at an ancient below level like...10 i think? After that fire and ice become respectively less effective, meaning while Dread will continue to hit hard, your Paris becomes less and less useful as its fire and frost start doing low amounts.

Also keep in mind please, that when you compare weapons and they have a charge feature on a weapon that is MEANT to be charged, why would you compare their base damage? Since elemental and serration scaling affects base damage, comparing 45 for Paris to 60 for Dread already gives the innate AP on Paris a favorable light as the gulf between the two is smaller. Add in 100 charge for Paris and 150 for Dread and suddenly that 33% base dmg inc becomes a 50% base dmg inc, then rescale all your calcs off that. Add onto THAT the dmg they can each do on a crit and the numbers once again seperate, as Dread has 200% crit dmg vs the 150% on paris.

Bottom line, you used a good comparison but you didn't use all the information available OR compare both of them at their peak. What you did was compared their dmg in optimal situations without using their charged damage which is pretty much a must, unless you prefer shooting ancients with snapshots all day. I never said Paris sucked, i simply said that if you can aim, Dread has a higher potential in ALMOST all situations.