Talk:Saryn/@comment-33526134-20180517225843/@comment-79.168.54.198-20180518001738

To be fair, Toxic Lash doesn't buff by 30%/60%. What it does is create an additional instance of damage equal to 30%/60% of the hit, and guarantee a Toxin proc from it. Since a Toxin proc deals 50% of initial damage 9 times, we're looking at 4.5x the damage. So it's actually 5.5 x 0.3 = 1.65x = 165% more damage for guns and double that for melee.

Could get a buff, and could also suck depending on innate elemental resistances. But it's free shield-bypassing damage that counts for Condition Overload. It's different, but nowhere near "bad".