Talk:Hate/@comment-67.187.194.178-20130920210927/@comment-14818592-20130928184958

honestly Hate or scindo they about equal

Orthos isn't perfect

Hate,Gram,Scindo,Orthos,Orthos Prime,Galtine,Prova(only against corpus as it will do 300 charge damage by standard)

it depends on faction.

Hate and orthos = no major difference

Hate go less range and but is effected by fury the most more than anyother heavy weapon

Orthos more range but doesnt get alot of benefit from fury actaul not even worth adding fury

Hate you dont even need reflect coil

Fury effects the hate  more than the relfect coil effects the orthos(in my experence)