Talk:Dera Vandal/@comment-142.177.81.10-20150519211133

Don't get me wrong, I'm not crazy about the Karak either, I just expect that it'll be better, and likely have a bigger magazine which is one of the main problems with the original Karak. And maybe the Dera Vandal will be a massive upgrade from the original, in that case I'll eat my words... providing that we can actually know the stats of both and can compare the two weapons. And I don't have the Machete Wraith, but I can say the regular Machete is easily one of the worst, if not the worst melee weapon in the game. At least the Machete Wraith looks like quite an upgrade from the original. It's got double the damage and a 0.2 faster attack speed.