Talk:Hydroid/@comment-108.87.117.137-20161005020126/@comment-108.87.117.137-20161015202156

Well, I main him and have no trouble wrecking the game. "Other frames can do it better" = once you hit the threshold of "it is done", then there isn't any need to "do it better" other than to compensate for general lack of skill at the game. Hydroid can do it all and meets any threshold currently set by the game-- hence, there is no need to "do it" better or more-- that simply becomes wasted effort and brings your skill at the game into question.

Example :  You kill a guy with a sword or you drop a bomb on him. Both kill him. One shows you have personal skill, the other shows you can drop a bomb.

Until the game possesses a threshold that Hydroid cannot met, the arugment that "other frames do it better" is literally pointless.

So yes--- we play as Hydroid because we like him and we have no trouble wrecking the game with him. Why the fuck would we play as another frame when we have hit the two main criteria for picking any character in a video game  ? 1.) We like him 2.) he gets the job done with no trouble or wasted effort.

Again, I postulate that people don't like him because they require the overkill over other frames -- which should be understood as "The crutches provided by other frames" -- in order to get the job done.

Now, if you don't like Hyroid, that is fair.. nobody wants you to play as a warframe that you don't like..

But saying that he sucks because he doesn't  crutch/hand-hold players isn't a valid argument. And that has been my point from the beginning: Hydroid has enough power to get the job done, but does not have the hand-holding crutch power to carry weaker players.

And that is why people hate him :  Because they suck at the game.

Now, if you 1.) Don't suck at the game and 2.) Can wreck the game with Hydroid .. but you  don't like his design or playing as him-- then that is fair, but again -- it doesn't create a valid argument for "him sucking". It just means you don't prefer his design.