Talk:Saryn (Warframe)/@comment-172.12.126.142-20140131061150/@comment-24245085-20140204030120

''""Dude, use simple math. ''

Okay, so you're saying Venom is 10 dps, which is true, but that's only for one spore. 

1 Spore = 10dps 

10 x 6 spores = 60dps 

15 seconds x 60  = 900 damage 

Meaning, her 1st ability Surpasses:  

''Excalibur's Slash Dash, Ember's Fireball, Frost's Freeze (IF you spread venom, but I'll get to that later), Nekros' Soul Punch, Nova's Null Star (Technically equal, but as said, if you spread venom, the damage will increase significantly), Oberon's Smite, Rhino's Rhino Charge, Vauban's Tesla, and Volt's shock, so it pretty much surpassess all warframe's 1st ability. " ''

''As you can see here, I was not stating that venom was the best ability in the game, that could even surpass weapons at that, no,  I was stating that her first ability surpasses most other frames 1st abilities, as to why people were complaining that it wasn't the best, when in reality, it's in fact more useful than other warframe's first abilities, and keep in mind, that I'm talking about 1st damage dealing abilities, before you squeeze anymore bull out of your rectum that utility 1st abilities are better than venom. Venom can be a pretty viable placeholder for ammo if you have the right weapon to make it spread more.''"

Ok, this so much bull I just have to respond. You actually think that Venom just by doing more damage(which is a fantasy btw) than other abilities make it more usefull? Skipping the part where you have to cast it(and that makes you take sometimes serious damage) you will have to WAIT for it to do damage OR pop the spores for 25 damage/spore - which is basically NOTHING. Ammo conservation is never the issue, cause if you ever face enough enemies to be counting on spread it will mean you are in a survival or defence mission where there is always more than enough ammo.