Talk:Ember/@comment-39.62.186.83-20191109095447/@comment-24.231.123.84-20191110110910

DE doesn't care about her, there's a long list of unfair nerfs (mechanic ripoffs, stealth nerfs, pointless stat buffs) they've done to Ember while buffing other frames for the same reason. She does nothing that other frames do better for support/debuff/damage, and damage is meaningless since she won't compete with a properly modded gun.

They made Ember irrelevant all the way back in 2013. Here's a small history lesson DE doesn't want you to know:

Before Nova was released, Ember's World On Fire originally hit 3 targets per "tick". Back in Damage 1.0 days, this meant every second 3 enemies (the rate of fire for WoF was slower back then) were bursting into flames and "panicing" due to how elemental effects worked in Damage 1.0. Quick lesson, in Damage 1.0 if you threw cold, heat, and electric damage on your gun, every bullet resulted in the cold slow effect ontop of either fire-panic or electric "spasming", think of it as 100% base status chance *before* multi-shot. So the constant source of "fire panic" effects combined with Overheat made Ember actually useful at high levels because she provided a constant, guaranteed CC effect ontop of chipping away at enemies (especially Infested, back when Ancient Disruptors and Healers didn't provide aura buffs). This was also back in the day when it took them a dozen attempts to "Fix" world on fire, as back in the day it was a duration-based ability, but if it ran out of targets it would end instantly regardless of remaining time.

When Nova was released, DE intentionally ninja-nerfed Ember's World On Fire to only hit 1 target per tick, and kept it out of the patch notes. It was them trying to strong-arm people into playing Nova as the new "Nuke queen", mainly to boost sales of plat purchase to buy her.

Only a handful of vets are still around that even remember this. This was also around the time when they nerfed Overheat because "Near-invincibility damage reduction is too OP"...but now that's half the frame roster.