Talk:The Second Dream/@comment-108.87.117.137-20151206233208

If the Operators are this powerful, then it is irrational that they never achieved a state of Lucid Dreaming. Think about it. At no point did this pychic masters-of-the-Universe ever realize they were sleeping? That is ridiculous.

Furthermore, I still can't figure out how to reconcile some aspects of the lore with the u18 lore-- ironically enough, the Alad V update (Valkyr) update seems to stand in stark contrast to the u18 lore. By-passing some of the finer details and just going in rough,  I fail to see the reason the Operator didn't simply disconnect from Valkyr and enter a different Warframe... and, on that note, how the hell did Alad V manage to traumatize ALL the Valkyr frames at once? The lore of that update highly suggested (actually, it flat out said) that Valkyr was a single frame that Alad V caught and experimented on, traumatizing her etc... If she was just a drone piloted by the Operator, why not simply disconnect and enter another frame ?

Also, the entire  lore surrounding Prime Frames seems to stand in stark contrast to the U18 lore  How do you have Prime Frames within this context ? Sure, you can say the Primes are the originals in the void--that doesn't change-- but now we are left with the problem of "Why are there ANY non-prime frames outside of the void"? Would not they ALL be Prime frames? Did I miss this explanation ? If this was explained, then I would be happy if someone would fill me in-- maybe I simply wasn't paynig attention when that was addressed.

Also-- if the warframe is a robot, who exactly was the humonoid in the Warframe Cryopods ? And why the mention of  deviced being attached to Warframe's Spines ? I understand the implications of "host bodies"-- but if that is the case, who are the host ? And, again, how does this stack up with Prime Frame's hosts and non-prime frame hosts ? How does that mechanic work out?

Lastly--  on the same not about Valkyr--- I don't understand how Mirage was "lost forever" if she was just a robot piloted by an Operator. Why couldn't the operator switch to another warframe? Was there only a limited amount of warframes then? Was each Operator allowed only a single warframe? If this is the case, this seems REALLY stupid because.. why would the Orokin only have one Warframe per operator ?

But-- even if the Prime Warframes were only one-per-operator (which is stupid), we are still left with the question of "How can Vaklyr" be traumatized --especially since we know the Operator CAN switch between non-prime warframes.

Do we know this answers now (and I missed them) or is this all left unanswered?