Talk:Rhino (Warframe)/@comment-4421067-20130930094645/@comment-194.46.180.111-20131002132900

Effort tradeoff doesn't factor into making a Warframe "OP". It's ridiculous how you say one is OP just because the distance a player must get is too short as if the distance or "effort tradeoff" actually affects the usefulness of the Warframe in battle. For a Warframe to be truly OP, it has to overshadow the others and to scale even better than the enemies stats and abilities wise. As far as people are aware, Rhino does not have the aforementioned prerequisites to qualify as an OP frame. In my opinion, Rhino is one of the tops but hardly OP, it's just that the other frames don't scale well enough with the enemies.

It's funny how you came up with your own solution that is to move Ember closer to the starting point of the game as if you're saying she's less useful than Rhino (which has some truth and can be argued) instead of actually suggesting a revamp of Ember and "Buffing" her to scale better, which actually pleases players who uses Ember and pisses off nobody.