Talk:Ember/@comment-25330002-20191005110300/@comment-24.231.123.84-20191005232132

You...are....part of the problem of why reworks suck 90% of the time. They didn't buff Fireball or Fireblast, Immolation is a gimped version of Overheat. Why does it need to turn her into Sienna from Vermintide? Have fun suicide-bombing 'cause you accidently pressed 4 twice trying to defend a defense objective or cover an ally reviving someone. It should just function like original Overheat did. And new WoF does not match Ember's theme of "Superheating the air for CC". Ember wasn't really 'strong' even back in her glory days of 2013, but when WoF = guaranteed fire panic and was hitting 3 targets per tick, the high CC+Dmg combo made her good for infested, especially since it was duration based and everyone stacked energy siphon.

You're right on the nerfed to death part, but this rework is not going to fix it. Her new passive is garbage, her new ult should've been an aura like equinox, but deals constant fire damage to everything in range + fire proc chance to everything inside the aura. Two of her skills remain useless, and she didn't get any frame stat changes. Why does Saryn Prime still have more energy than Ember Prime, despite Ember is described by DE themselves as one of the most energy-hungry frames? If they refuse to do that they should at least buff her base armor/health to be higher.

Sorry if that sounds like an attack, but you're far too hyped while DE has a proven track-record of screwing Ember repeatedly. They don't know how to balance, that's why don't touch Rhino/Mesa/Chroma/Saryn unless it's to make them more OP.