Talk:Hydroid (Warframe)/@comment-24.151.235.79-20140513041653/@comment-98.246.24.163-20140520092743

To the poster above, you can argue that they're all CC, but they're not as good compared to a CC that is for the sake of CC, which is why Tentacle Swarm should be spammed as an attack since it's the closest thing to CC he has and does high damage. And unless you're using a Vauban, you never really use all four abilities on a warframe at once anyway. It's better to focus one or two abilities with a combination of mods to boost said attack. Not to mention your primary weapon, provided it's a good one, deals the most damage above any warframe ability.

You can even argue that Vauban is a utility frame because he has a massive CC as well, it doesn't matter. All of Hydroid's abilities are offensive in that they deal damage, that in itself is something you cannot dispute with. Most of Hydroids abilities are terrible CC's compared to Vauban's Bastille (large area and suspends enemies in air, it does no damage to them but renders them useless for a long time), Excalibur's Radial Blind (Cheap and Cost effective, 8 second stun can be increased to stun even longer than Tentacle Swarm) and Nyx's Absorb (better CC and scales with enemies) and Chaos combination (enemy damage scaling too). Even the range of the attacks aren't enough for me to consider them as CC, but it does damage and scales with power strength. So think of it like Oberon's ultimate or Nova's ultimate, does that make nova a utility frame? Not really because Nova's ultimate is very offensive and kills many enemies with the anti-matter drop, by killing many enemies it's also effective as a CC. Think of Tentacle Swarm like Zephyr's tornadoes, that's clearly a damaging ability.

There's no point to control a crowd if you cannot control a massive area of effect for said crowd. Try using a mix of those attacks and watch as wave 50 or minute 50 of survival, a horde of enemies would come rushing in so fast that the small AoE is frankly useless. Yes it can buy you sometime to regroup your shields and survive, but I'm just saying there are better abilities out there for it. I see it how it is, his abilities are offensive, deal damage and scale with power strength. Need I say more?