Talk:Loki (Warframe)/@comment-67.160.84.202-20130422051651

Ash is a much better and offensive version of Loki. If you are still playing loki it is time to switch.

I have loki, ash, rhino, trinity, frost, Nyx & Banshee. Level 8 in game account.

To explain my statement, lets take a look at their abilities:

Loki's #1 ability decoy is not "invulnerable". It is not simply a decoy of image, it is an actual "thing" which has its health and shield based on what you have. It means that it cant tank for you in high level defense map.

I would rate loki #1 ability 7/10

Ash's #1 ability is a "standard" attack skill which can headshot for 700 dmg. That is 70% of an ult dmg to a single target, can hit up to 2 targets, with stagger effect.

I would rate Ash's #1 ability 7.5/10

Loki's #2 ability invisible & Ash's smoke screen. Lokis lasts 2s longer. Ash's has stagger effect to enemy surrounding.

Loki's 8/10 Ash's 9/10

Why: Stagger effect is so important because it stops everyone around you. Loki's can hide you but you can still take dmg while ash's can stop everyone and so you can charge your attack rightaway.

Loki's #3 ability switches your position with your target while Ash's can teleport you next to your enemy. You might think using loki's with decoy can teleport you to a "good spot" but most of the time it is not true, it wont let you. Try to see through youself.

Loki's 5/10 Ash's 6/10

Loki's #4 ability, well it is pretty much useless most of the time It deals no dmg except to infesters. Disarm wont work on boss. And honestly what is the point to disarm someone is they can still hit you hard?

Ash's deals up to 3K dmg and up to 13 targets.Ash's is more like an ult while Loki's is more like a normal ability.

Loki's 5/10 Ash's 8.5/10

Judge it by yourself or test them by yourself. If you still see someone says Loki is undefeatable or unkillable or something like that, ask them to read this post.

Thank you all!