Talk:Saryn/Abilities/@comment-79.16.8.116-20151220213326/@comment-1679878-20170502215416

People complaining about frames being weak need to drop their Vitality mods and get Quick Thinking/Primed Flow, especially on a frame like Saryn, whose Prime version has the joint highest base power of all the frames (300, the same as Volt Prime).

Maxed Primed Flow takes that to 850, and with Quick Thinking turning energy into health at 240% efficiency, you end up with 2040 health, sat behind her base 225 armor (plus base health and shields of 375/300). Not bad at all for a pure damage frame.

Throw in Energy Siphon (plus Coaction Drift if they ever fix the bug with it not working in the Eximus slot), Zenurik, and a syndicate weapon with an energy restore effect (Embolist might have crap damage, but so will an Ignis built with range, -accuracy, and fire rate for spreading spores), then you can actually replace your own 'health', and a darn sight better than people who use Vitality, because let's face it, you can't guarantee a healing frame being present, Life Strike forces you into melee (not a good idea at high levels), and when was the last time you saw health orbs drop, except when there was a Nekros present, while energy orbs are pretty regular.

The only negatives are starting missions with low energy, Energy Leech Eximus units, and the crap UI that puts your energy meter right in the corner of the screen.

As for her damage scaling, I took a Spore Saryn with a Gas Ignis on that level 9999 Corpus tactical alert we had a while back, and finished on 85% damage done, and we killed everything well before 5 minutes (it was a survival with an enemy count like in exterminate).

While that was a god-mode mission (no way to die except running out of life support), the game is co-op, so if you really need better survival, play with some CC or defensive frames instead of pugs. If you're Saryn, you know how to spread spores effectively, and you're given the chance, you do enough damage to cover for 3 other people not doing any.