Talk:Sancti Magistar/@comment-46.195.146.117-20161001121052/@comment-65.181.58.40-20170307221453

"I mean, there is a reason why you can't have melee Banshee or Nyx, even in lower levels, but those frames can be viable with guns. Pretty self explanatory." That's because Banshee and Nyx are already some of the most useless frames in the game. And before you get all defensive, here's why: Banshee: Pretty much all her interesting abilities can be done with mods, or done better by other frames. Seriously, a sound-based warframe is a wonderful concept, but theres a good reason the Bard Frame is getting hyped, because DE is going back to do it right this time. Also, soundquake is not nearly as effective (both in getting kills and energy cost) as World on Fire.

Nyx: her single useful ability is Chaos. While it is useful and when modded right it can have huge usability with it's range maxed out, but honestly the Perrin Sequence weapon AOE does almost as well, and its automatically activated when you get enough affinity and costs 0 energy. All of Nyx's other abilities are pretty terrible. Absorb is ok, as it blocks all damage over a target, which is nice for teams reviving people, but it's not often I've seen anyone have 2 people arrive to revive a fallen ally and are under heavy fire, and if that is the case, most frames use their ult and kill everything, or they're 3 and create a defensive utility, and boom free revive then defensible position to fight back.