Talk:Ember/@comment-24.231.123.122-20151121110414/@comment-27322557-20151202012451

Honestly, I have to disagree. Ember is a lot better than she once was, she is not the go-to frame for exterminates etc., but past that, it's really not that good. It terms of damage she's kinda meh, her survivability is still garbage, and she doesn't really have CC abilities. By no means is she bad anymore, but I feel like virtually everything good about her is done better by another frame, which in the end will win out, because having 4 team-members that focus on one role is going to work better than having a jack-of-all-trades type frame. I still feel like Ember needs a full re-work, not simply these small tweaks she keeps getting to try and mitigate the damage. Honestly even the whole Exterminate Nuke thing of hers, until they made Saryn no longer a Nuke-type frame, and instead had her focus on a more complex but better scaling damage, Ember as a Nuke-type wasn't really even worth it.