Talk:Oberon/@comment-25532101-20170427013720/@comment-24820404-20170427124004

I mean, when i very blatantly say that you shouldnt be comparing trinity with oberon just because they both have heals and you still compare trinity and oberon because they both have heals, i dont think that you're ready to start a real debate. You're just ready to apply your bias. Which is cool, we're all entitle to that, but dont bring me into it.

I like new oberon, i've already done 2 hour mot survival with him, and it was succesful because of his 2. I see nothing in trinitys kit that allows her to set chokepoints up with radiation procs while she sits back from a distance. I also dont see her doing spammable scaling damage (dont say ev, because either  she builds for negative duration to spam it (still less than smite), and piss on her other abilities, or she goes full tilt on duration and can only cast ev like every half hour.

Now you're comparing an augment of trinitys to a skill that oberon has built in lol. I would put them at a tie in that end, since trinity needs a mod slot to accomplish this 3 target armor shredding for 45% armor, while oberon needs at least one mod slot to bring that armor shredding up to 45%, even though his can stack. For trinity to get any higher than that 45% she has to sacrifice even more mod slots.Keep in mind this is still only 3 targets at a time.

So yeah, trinity doesnt have oberons 1, 2, or 4. Trinity has no way to open up stealth finisher damage, she has no way to innately shred armor, while her ev is finisher damage, its nowhere near as spammable as smite, and doesnt provide the cc that smite does...

I'm not saying trinity is bad, but the fact that people are so insistent on oberon being a weaker trinity because he has a damn heal skill is some of the most lopsided and annoying logic i've seen come from this community. Its especially strange because i dont see the same bias with equinox, even though she has a heal and damage mitigation as well.

For all intents and purposes, a well played trinity will not scale as far as a well played oberon, because raw tank stats can still eventually get one shot if you play long enough, whereas smartly executed cc can keep you alive for as long as you have the skill to play.